Todd McShay over at ESPN.com has his new mock up (1st and 2nd rounds). He has Hawk falling to the Raiders (oh please) due to his feeling that Lienert and Young go 2 and 3 and San Fran will take Vernon Davis.
I can't wait till the draft, but I just love watching all the draft gurus trying to predict this thing.
I totally wish Hawk would fall to us at #7, but in any scenario I can't see him falling past both the Packers and Niners (even though the Niners have a ton more needs than a LB — offense, anyone?). My hope is that we don't take yet another CB or TE. D line and impact linebackers are what we really need in this draft.
Hah! Indeed, if you go to RaiderNews.com and scan the headlines for the past two days, every "expert" mock draft has the Raiders picking someone different than the other. None are in agreement!
Check out Calico Jack's mock draft (link via Silver & Black Forever at bottom right of Raider Take). Good stuff, he's beating the gurus at their own game. And he, too, makes an interesting case for Hawk falling to the Raiders.
Most of these guys can't even agree on the ranking of players. Wouldn't it be fun to put Mel Kiper (ESPN) and Mike Mayock (NFL Network) in the same room and have 'em duke it out.
Last year, Mel was pretty accurate in the first round. I don't see that happening this year.
My prognostication on the draft is the Raiders select a Longhorn at #7.
Al Davis loves players who play big in the Big Game. Young was clutch in the Rose Bowl (twice) and Huff stuffed LenDale White on the pivitol play of this year's game.
Hence, I predict Huff or Young will be the call (note: this is presuming Hawk and Williams will be gone and no Al Davis trade ups, which he has been known to do...).
My gut says the "Al loves Vince" hype is subterfuge and Huff is the real target, but as we all know, Al plays Texas Hold'em with the best of 'em and his moves are purposely hard to predict (remember Randy Moss about this time last year?).
Vince Young is everything Al Davis loves in a player except for one thing....he's a Qb. Al doesn't like taking Qb's in the 1st round. I think Vernon Davis is the guy Al will pick. VD is a TE, and a flat out great athlete. He also has suspect hands, so Al will like the fact that someone will have to teach him to catch the ball,(see Rickey Dud). Yes, if the Raiders stay in the 7 spot, VD will be the man.
first let me just say.....please please please let HAWK fall to us!!!! this thing was alot easier before the saints signed brees. now i think they sit in the drivers seat for the whole top of the draft.
here's how i think it shakes out. everybody and their brother know that houston takes bush 1st. like they have a choice. so here sits the saints with the lienert pick, we all know he's the best available athlete, he's supposed to be goin right here, if they don't deal this pick they didn't get the value out of the pick, the trick is to decide who you want and then trade down and get him, still. plus what else you can pry away from the shcmuck you talked into trading with you. which they can and should totally do.
now if we can get all three of these qb's to go top 5, need someone to trade up in there to grab cutler (lol, could happen) then we got a shot at hawk!!!! i still don't think that'll get us williams.
probably end up with huff like stick'em said. which isn't bad at all. i like the kid and wouldn't mind seeing him in silver and black. just want HAWK!
It really comes down to what the Jets want to do. The Ramsey signing caused just as much confusion at the top of the board as the Brees signing.
Do the Jets feel they have what they need in Ramsey or do they feel comfortable with Chad coming back. If the answer is no, then they have to take a QB. If they sit at 4, Young (or Cutler) could fall to them. If they want Leinert then they have to move up in to the Saints spot.
If it falls out this way then it's all up to the niners (who really need to trade down and get more picks) and who they take. From what I'm reading, Hawk wouldn't fit in the 3-4 they are going with and Williams (Packers) and D'Brick (Saints) will likley be gone by then. Davis make sense hear, since a good pass catching TE can really help out a young QB.
This would land Hawk right at 7 and hopefully put him in Silver and Black.
Also don't count out the Saints moving back just far enough to grab Davis. Bress could use a TE in NO like the had in SD with Gates. I have no idea what that would do to the board.
There's just so much that can happen, I can't wait. Though I usually end up getting dissapointed with the Raider picks.
It's early in the morning and I'm just rambling now. Go Raiders!
I thik the Raiders sit in a pressure less spot. At the #7 pick they are going to have their pick determined by the previous 6. Young, Hawk, Huff it will be hard to screw this up.
The Raiders are known for some interesting picks. I remember when they picked Nandi in the first round. ESPN didnt even have a tape on him. Nandi is descent but you would think he would have been available in a later round
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Todd McShay over at ESPN.com has his new mock up (1st and 2nd rounds). He has Hawk falling to the Raiders (oh please) due to his feeling that Lienert and Young go 2 and 3 and San Fran will take Vernon Davis.
I can't wait till the draft, but I just love watching all the draft gurus trying to predict this thing.
I totally wish Hawk would fall to us at #7, but in any scenario I can't see him falling past both the Packers and Niners (even though the Niners have a ton more needs than a LB — offense, anyone?). My hope is that we don't take yet another CB or TE. D line and impact linebackers are what we really need in this draft.
Hah! Indeed, if you go to RaiderNews.com and scan the headlines for the past two days, every "expert" mock draft has the Raiders picking someone different than the other. None are in agreement!
Check out Calico Jack's mock draft (link via Silver & Black Forever at bottom right of Raider Take). Good stuff, he's beating the gurus at their own game. And he, too, makes an interesting case for Hawk falling to the Raiders.
Most of these guys can't even agree on the ranking of players. Wouldn't it be fun to put Mel Kiper (ESPN) and Mike Mayock (NFL Network) in the same room and have 'em duke it out.
Last year, Mel was pretty accurate in the first round. I don't see that happening this year.
My prognostication on the draft is the Raiders select a Longhorn at #7.
Al Davis loves players who play big in the Big Game. Young was clutch in the Rose Bowl (twice) and Huff stuffed LenDale White on the pivitol play of this year's game.
Hence, I predict Huff or Young will be the call (note: this is presuming Hawk and Williams will be gone and no Al Davis trade ups, which he has been known to do...).
My gut says the "Al loves Vince" hype is subterfuge and Huff is the real target, but as we all know, Al plays Texas Hold'em with the best of 'em and his moves are purposely hard to predict (remember Randy Moss about this time last year?).
Vince Young is everything Al Davis loves in a player except for one thing....he's a Qb. Al doesn't like taking Qb's in the 1st round. I think Vernon Davis is the guy Al will pick. VD is a TE, and a flat out great athlete. He also has suspect hands, so Al will like the fact that someone will have to teach him to catch the ball,(see Rickey Dud). Yes, if the Raiders stay in the 7 spot, VD will be the man.
first let me just say.....please please please let HAWK fall to us!!!! this thing was alot easier before the saints signed brees. now i think they sit in the drivers seat for the whole top of the draft.
here's how i think it shakes out. everybody and their brother know that houston takes bush 1st. like they have a choice. so here sits the saints with the lienert pick, we all know he's the best available athlete, he's supposed to be goin right here, if they don't deal this pick they didn't get the value out of the pick, the trick is to decide who you want and then trade down and get him, still. plus what else you can pry away from the shcmuck you talked into trading with you. which they can and should totally do.
now if we can get all three of these qb's to go top 5, need someone to trade up in there to grab cutler (lol, could happen) then we got a shot at hawk!!!! i still don't think that'll get us williams.
probably end up with huff like stick'em said. which isn't bad at all. i like the kid and wouldn't mind seeing him in silver and black. just want HAWK!
It really comes down to what the Jets want to do. The Ramsey signing caused just as much confusion at the top of the board as the Brees signing.
Do the Jets feel they have what they need in Ramsey or do they feel comfortable with Chad coming back. If the answer is no, then they have to take a QB. If they sit at 4, Young (or Cutler) could fall to them. If they want Leinert then they have to move up in to the Saints spot.
If it falls out this way then it's all up to the niners (who really need to trade down and get more picks) and who they take. From what I'm reading, Hawk wouldn't fit in the 3-4 they are going with and Williams (Packers) and D'Brick (Saints) will likley be gone by then. Davis make sense hear, since a good pass catching TE can really help out a young QB.
This would land Hawk right at 7 and hopefully put him in Silver and Black.
Also don't count out the Saints moving back just far enough to grab Davis. Bress could use a TE in NO like the had in SD with Gates. I have no idea what that would do to the board.
There's just so much that can happen, I can't wait. Though I usually end up getting dissapointed with the Raider picks.
It's early in the morning and I'm just rambling now. Go Raiders!
I thik the Raiders sit in a pressure less spot. At the #7 pick they are going to have their pick determined by the previous 6. Young, Hawk, Huff it will be hard to screw this up.
The Raiders are known for some interesting picks. I remember when they picked Nandi in the first round. ESPN didnt even have a tape on him. Nandi is descent but you would think he would have been available in a later round
Perhaps a namesake,
Like an autumn leaf, floats down
And we rake him in.
AllyOop
Artistic as always, Ally!
the Ghost still holy
roll leaves of grass, chalk and mud;
learn the sound, "Hey Vern!"
For those who would slander the Raider Nation, we will smite them with poetry!
Thank you, poets, for your eloquence.
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