Raiders v. Bengals in Progress
Fourth quarter take:
Ummm...Don't we want to go for two points after the touchdown, to try to make it 27-11, putting us within two scores (two touchdowns and two two-point conversions) instead of three scores (two touchowns plus one field goal)?
Halftime take:
Undone by our own mistakes.
Halfway through the second quarter take:
What will it take to get Anderson and Williams off the field, and Madsen on the field? How many mistakes do we allow these two tight ends? What is going on? Am I missing something? Didn't Madsen provide most of our receiving offense two weeks against San Diego?
Thoughts? Let's use this take as a thread to discuss the game in progress as well.
Ummm...Don't we want to go for two points after the touchdown, to try to make it 27-11, putting us within two scores (two touchdowns and two two-point conversions) instead of three scores (two touchowns plus one field goal)?
Halftime take:
Undone by our own mistakes.
Halfway through the second quarter take:
What will it take to get Anderson and Williams off the field, and Madsen on the field? How many mistakes do we allow these two tight ends? What is going on? Am I missing something? Didn't Madsen provide most of our receiving offense two weeks against San Diego?
Thoughts? Let's use this take as a thread to discuss the game in progress as well.
posted by Raider Take at 10:38 AM
20 Comments:
Unfortunately RT that asshole that keeps posting bullshit during the games is right, the raider defense hasn't stopped any team that really has a good offense. Two 100yard receivers, another 100 yards given up rushing. I am sick, this team is the worst!
I'm with ya, I mean how many freaking balls do they have to drop. It's really wonderful Anderson is so big and all but he can't catch and constantly runs his routes too shallow or rounds them off.
Two things a struggleing offense needs, a running game and a reliable tight-end, not a size-speed guy who drops balls.
While Madsen may be a converted wideout and qualify as a size-speed guy, at least he appears to be one that can catch and knows his routes.
Curry and Madsen seem to be the most reliable receivers. If we cut Moss and/or Porter loose, I would like to see Madsen go back to being a big WR as opposed to an undersized TE. Madsen would be an excellent WR in 3 WR sets in the mold of McCaferty.
If we move Madsen back to WR we're definitely going to need a TE in the draft. Fellas, I think we ought to just start looking at who we can get in the draft. This season is going beyond frustration. What do you guys think of a dark horse RB out of Northern Illinois named Garrett Wolfe? He's the leading rusher in college football with 1900yds, a 6.6 YPC avg, 247 yds rec, and 19TD. I wouldn't say take him #1, but I think he's worth looking at if he's available in the 2nd or 3rd round. Thoughts?
Curry and Madsen seem to be the most reliable receivers.........you are right and why do they continue to stay on the bench??? whitted and moss???..unreal... why is brooks still playing??? even in garbage time walter sits...there are MAJOR PROBLEMS throughout this organization.. GOD I PRAY FOR THE DAY THAT THIS NIGHTMARE ENDS>>>
RT- didn't get to see the game. Read the play by play and almost threw up after the first sequence. Let's see, we intercepted their first drive only to have Alvis Whitted give it right back? There was no need in reading further.
I think we can all admit now that our offense is the worst in NFL history. I have nothing left to speculate about as to this on-going train wreck. I just wish Al would step aside.
I'm watching the Chargers destroy Denver. In Sand Diego I see the type of team I wish we had. Big, tough, physical and well-coached. Shell's never gonna beat Shotty.
Raiderrealist- The Wolffe kid had a good game in Ohio State but I don't like his size at all. I do like him in the second if you could get him there. I think we'd be fools to pass up on A. Peterson if he's available. We'd almost have to take him if he's available. We can't play in a division that has LT and LJ and not have our own muscle car. We need Petersen more than Quinn. BUt I see Davis liking Quinn. And as for running the ball, if we want to take one big lesson from the man (besides Al) that I think has been the primary destroyer of our team and image -- Shotty-- Al take a cue from this man and get a bulldozing fullback like Neal. Remember those Chief teams with Tony Richardson.
I'm so disguted in Al I can't see straight, Just retire baby, please.
RT,
Your question about Courtney Nohandserson, & Randal, no handle, Williams, is a good one.
You could ask the same question about Gibson, Brayton, and a bunch of other guys too.
The answer, I'm afraid, is that certain bad players just have a death grip on a Raiders roster spot.
The reason can only be that they have important friends in high places within the Raiders organization.
They certainly have not earned their roster spots with their play on the field.
It's a sad statement on how the Raiders are run these days.
Let's hope that Curry carrying the team down the field for the entire TD drive finally alerts coaches to the fact that he should be on the field for first and second down too....
Unreal that every week we watch him get one clutch 3rd down catch after another only to see him jog back to the bench until the next 3rd & 8 play.
Anyone know of a good fullback we can try and get by the draft or free agency? They're rare, but we could sure use one. Next week for the sake of sanity we ought to start all the youngsters, including Walter. See what they can do in game situations, because right now we can't even play spoiler.
The answer is to get rid of the whole bunch of losers and start new from office on down, Shell can't coach, he's a dinosaur, Al Davis doesn't even know who's on the team. Moss is "hurt" again, no Porter, the defense collapsed, AB was throwing the ball to ghosts..What else can go wrong? I give up! The o-line only gave up 4 sacks, I'm supposed to be happy that they only let the D-linemen get to Brooks 4 times????
I would think faggot Patriots fan would shut the fuck up since his team got shut out by the fish.
The Patriots practise squad would Bi-Atch slap your faida camel dung heap of a "team" mohammar! Just buy the Pee shirt baby...Defending the nation!!!!! 2-14. Columbus Ohio faidas , get used to it....it's comming!
We're talking a lot about Madsen, for good reason. I have a fair question related to Madsen; why is he even a tight end anyway? When did Al and Art become allergic to the idea of a reliable possession wide receiver?
Moss and Porter are as good as gone. Why not rebuild the WR corps around Curry and Madsen? Are we concerned because neither of them has an Olympic medal? Who cares?!? Madsen is a freak athlete, I don't understand the need to bulk him up and move him inside...
Nice spelling, Faida Boy. Practise. Comming. You're a real grammar champ. Quit talking smack about PantyRaider's spelling, he's a better speller than you.
I'm glad that Raider Take consumes so much of your time and attention, I'll consider it a public service; society can only benefit when obsessive dipshits like you are out of circulation, holed up in your bedrooms, tapping out misspelled words and third-grade puns like "pee shirt."
As for the rest of you, don't bother responding to our resident retard, as I will simply continue to delete everything he posts. I've happily removed about 20 of his posts so far today.
Good points, Mad Stork 83. Something to consider for next year.
For the time being, though, I wouldn't mind Madsen remaining at TE if it would mean keeping Anderson or Williams off the field. Anderson is a joke, and Williams is becoming one.
Yeah, I don't care about anyone's spelling or grammar here, unless they start talking crap about someone else's spelling while writing things like "comming" and "practise."
How did Mquistan do today ??
I didn't get to see the game, but if he did well, it's important.
Because if we can at least say that Mquistan, & Boothe are solid guards, and perhaps we can send Gallery back to right tackle, where he wasn't so bad, hey, all of a sudden, we're a left tackle, and center away from having a very improved O-line !!!!
If anyone can give a review of Mcnasty, I would appreciate it.
Just trying to see the positive through a dark season.
PantyRaider-
Sorry but I must take issue with you blaming today's defensive woes on the offense. Of the 4 TD drives the Bengals had today, three of them went for over 50 yards(61 yds, 59yds, 88yds). When you cover more than half the field and score, that means the defense isn't getting the job done. We have a good up and coming defense, not a great defense. A great defense makes stops when they need them.
Yes they had 4 turnovers and the offense stank up the joint again(does this mean the "Shoop Must Go" chant will start soon?) but the Bengals drove for all that distance and STILL scored. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we are susceptible to the run and we need to add a run stopping DT or LB to the defense. On top of all that, BOTH Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh had over 100 yds receiving(101 and 118 respectively). Is that on the offense too, or did our defense get mauled today by a darn good offense?
Re: Ummm...Don't we want to go for two points after the touchdown, to try to make it 27-11, putting us within two scores (two touchdowns and two two-point conversions) instead of three scores (two touchdowns plus one field goal)?
What would it matter? This team has had maybe two TDs in the 4th quarter all season. How could it possibly happen three times in a single game?
This event actually happening would violate some principle of physics and the fabric of the entire universe as we know it would unravel.
Not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but if I had anything to do with it, on "O" the only player who's job would be safe for next season would be Ronald Curry.
Moss, Porter, Walker, Grove, Williams - GONE no matter how much we invested in them in $, time, and draft picks or what they do the rest of the season.
Every other player on "O" would be told that if they don't start performing, they will be gone at the end of the season no matter what their contracts say.
Time for a reckoning.
I hear you, Stick'Em, I just thought it might be good for fan and player morale if we at least pretended that we were playing competitive offense in the NFL.
The chance of us scoring two touchdowns and a field goal over the last 10 minutes was even more preposterous, so I would have given the nod to the strategy that most resembled the concept of playing to win, no matter how slim the chances.
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