How The AFC West Was Won
I
"Hang
"I got the rope!" says Bama.
"Let
Men reach for their weapons and head out of the saloon
"Where ya all headed?" shouts Psycho, arriving late.
"We
"Schweigert?"
"No. McCown!"
The crowd gathers in front of the jail house on
"Whatcha all want?" askes Take.
"There
"Four games!" Take lowers both barrells of his shotgun in the direction of the crowd. "Judge Kiffin says the trial
"Look, I don
"What
"He says the authority belongs to Kiffin," answers Take.
"McCown
"Trial
Blandarocked steps on to the porch along side the
"What y
Psycho, with three weeks growth of beard and dirty clothes, takes a long pull from his near empty jug.
"Time for a little tree top justice," says Bama.
The
"I agree with these here folks," says Take. "Judge Kiffin looks like he
"Justice takes as long as it takes," says the lawyer, "otherwise it
"I have a mind to let this crowd have
Psycho pulls the jug from his lips mid gulp, wasting cheap whiskey all over himself.
"Schweigert?" he says. "I missed Schweigert
"You were passed out," says Holy Roller.
The crowd falls silent. A big man dressed all in black rides down the street on a silver horse. He looks straight ahead.
"Why that there looks like Cole Pepper," says H, "he
The crowd parts as the silver horse approaches the jailhouse porch.
The man on the horse looks down at Marshall Take and Blandarocked.
"Is it true?" asks Take. "You Cole Pepper?"
"Yep," answers the man. "Mayor Davis hired me. I
Gun shots are heard behind the barn down the street.
"Whatcha got goin
"That
"Mayor Davis asked me ta take out a man by the name a McCown," says Pepper, "an that
Blandarocked steps up in front of Marshall Take.
"Judge Kiffin says it
"My time is... my time." says Pepper.
Blandrocked feels again for his shoulder holster, and for the daringer tucked inside the sweatband of his boller hat.
"Man here in town," says Blandarocked, "by the name of T.J. Pope, says you ain
"You wanna try me?" asks Pepper.
"Not me," says Blandarocked, stepping aside.
"I had some trouble down
Hey, I writes
"Well shoot!" says
"Yeah, but where?" says Nate.
"I got an idea," says Take. "Why don
"Huh?" asks Calico?
"I get it," says Raider00. "Once they go in there, it
"But that there
"I can live with that," says BlandaRocked, and he nods for Take to produce McCown. "Whoever lives, lives until Russell is finished practicin
(story to be continued after week 3)
109 Comments:
RT:
I like's it...sounds like a real fight is a brewing....time for some grog, me rum ration....I be itchen for a fight....and them damn dogs got's to go too....barken-n-crappin's about ta drive me crazy....picked up one a them muts last night -n- slit it's troat....me girls ur hungry and doggy on a spicket makes for me supper....Cambodian style....as I takes another swarler of me grog....
PantyRaider....Choaken da Dawgs!!!!
Angelic Raider-
Awesome I love that everyone was able to get a shot out in a very creative way, I was on the edge of my seat laughing the whole time.
I doubt there is another group of fans warped enough to pull this off.
Outstanding Blandarocked.
H
Short film worthy. Great job Blandarocked! Definitely one for the archives.
Honestly, this is a great distraction from what is otherwise a tough week. Thanks!
Question: is there any way Judge Kiffin can reduce the sentence to three games? 'Cause a four-game sentence is too long to wait for the lynchin to commence.
Can't wait to see how it ends...
So Blanda, is this the script to 3:10 to Cleveland?
McCown is not my only "sniper" concern with this team. I still have the defense in my eyesights as well. The ringing voices of "Just give us 17-20 points on offense, and we will win games." We've done it the last 2 weeks, and are 0-2.
The third turd in my eyesight is Janokowski. If I were a kicker, I'd kick his N-ts through the uprights from 70 yards out in a game; and take his job.
Some may think I am being too hard, but all I want is for the team to compete with minimal mistakes; play to our capabilities (not the opponents capabilities); and come away with a "W".
Check out this quote from Kiffin regarding Shanahan's comments that the Raiders would slip late in the game because they don't practice hard enough. Classic:
"I'm kind of hearing that third hand so I don't know what was said exactly," Kiffin said. "But Mike must have pretty good spies if he knows how long and how hard we practice every day . . . maybe Lombardi told him."
Psycho
I logged on last night after a long hard, dusty ride in from Chicago's West Side. (A wild west town in it's own right.)
This is truly classic.
As some of us are pandering for parts, I would like a cameo as the delusional old prospector. Bearded, hunched over and blind. Hat brim flipped up mumbling to himself.
I would walk through after Russell comes in to save the day....
"Ah seen the silver trophies. Ah clare afore gawd. They's a comin agin boys. They's a comin' agin!"
Raidernate:
The defense scored 8 points (plus add the 2 point conversion) so if you deduct those 8 points from the other teams offense they would have scored less than 17 points, or you could say that the offense still needs to score the 17 points that the defense asks for, those offensive points would have been enough to win that game.
raiderdecoachella
Hang his ass!
Browns' scouting reports via media links from Raidernews.com are pretty tame, one even flattering to the Raiders.
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/119019336212800.xml&coll=2
This excerpt about our receivers' says it all: "Jerry Porter (6-2 and 220 pounds), Ronald Curry (6-2 and 210) and former USC star Mike Williams (6-5 and 230)."
We have to be able to get the ball into their hands. Only 3 receptions went to receivers against Denver... same as the number of receptions by Denver defenders. Somebody remind Kiffin that's a little more than embarrassing.
Good stuff man. Entertaining to say the least.
I'm flattered, folks.
Calico:
It seems to me that other than disagreeing regarding some of the things Shell was doing, and I've since learned the error of my ways, we've agreed more often than not since last January.
My view of the Culpepper/McCown controversy:
First off, Kiffin has always showed me that there is always a reason for what he does.
I'd like to see Culpepper in there as well, but there's something we're neglecting to remember. The purpose of preseason is for the coaches to determine talent and fight. Culpepper showed us that he has both, and more than McCown. But there's an added element to regular season, and that is scheme, game planning and management.
While Culpepper has an excellent history, and Pro Bowl experience, his history reports that his greatest flaw is game plan management. When he went down hill for the Vikings was when they changed the offensive system. Miami also complained that he poorly managed the games he started. He did not have to deal with the issue of management during the preseason, so all we witnessed was his talent and fight.
I'm inclined to let Kiffin make his own decisions until the situation becomes obvious, and so far the losses have been "team losses," not "McCown losses."
I have a feeling that Kiffin intended to use McCown through the first three games, and if McCown couldn't show a victory then Kiffin will give Culpepper a try. Culpepper will get several games, but if he's not leading us to a winning season then Russell will get some time.
Since Kiffin is devising extra practice time for Russell, I believe he wants to be prepared to use Russell this season.
Blandarocked,
I can see your point, however in two full games McCowan has not shown a propensity for managing the game either. Nor has he shown the ability to limit turnovers as Kiffin requires.
I'm too am sure Kiffin has his reasons, but can Culpepper really the that much less prepared than McCowan?
At the very least, Kiffin should be willing to find out.
H
BR - Yep I'm with you, errr, Kiffin. Still would rather see Daunte but I'm sticking by the decision. Here is what Kif has to say about it, not to mention he appologized to the fans for not making the change and stuck to his guns:
"I feel right now that there’s so much that goes into the game besides just numbers. There’s checks he’s making on third down. There’s third-and-9 where he audibles to a run vs. a certain blitz that he has about five seconds on the play clock to get done, and we make 10 yards and make the first down.
"There’s a bunch of little things hidden in there. Or a time somebody comes in free and he moves out of the way or throws one to Zach (Miller) for about five yards that could have been a loss of 8. Right now I feel he puts us in a better position to win. Will that be the case next Monday? I don’t know."
Psycho
What's all this about Daunte not knowing enough of the playbook?
Dude’s been in Oakland for seven weeks now. And you don't need a playbook to hit Jerry Porter wide open downfield.
Didn’t Vinnie Testaverde come straight off his living room couch to win a game a few years ago? The Falcons signed Byron Leftwich today, and don’t be surprised if he supplants Joey Harrington in a few weeks. Raw ability counts for something.
McCown was 8 of 16 for 78 yards and four turnovers on Sunday. And we're sticking with him because of the "little hidden things?"
Crikey!
Bama7
McCown was basically relegated to WR at Detroit last year. This guy couldn't stick as a QB in Arizona or Detroit! Hey Kiffen, a bunch of NFL coaches in Arizona and Detroit have already done your homework in regards to McCown. Sit his sorry, a$$. He's a 2nd or 3rd stringer at best. Culpepper, while maybe not the answer, is a former pro bowler and has CLEARLY outplayed McCown through preseason. This is my biggest problem with Al's Raiders. It doesn't matter how good, or bad, of a football player you are... we simply play people that suck... and stick with them as if they have blackmail on us or something.
I think the biggest problem here is that Moss is kicking ass and Al looks like an idiot again, so he needs McCown to pay off or the trade looks stupid. Bush has obviously not fully recovered... Mike Willima is, well, Mike Williams, and again MOss was not done... he's on freakin fire.
I'm ready to win and I can't stand watching inferior football players anymore... they are tarnishing the silver.
We are kidding oursleves if we think McCown is a starting NFL QB. Now, here come the Browns and a defense that's one of the league's worst. McCown will probably do well enough to keep the job, yet another game (if our own defense can hold their own).
The shame here is that the Browns would be a GREAT first start for Culpepper. I think we'd win, and win big, with Dante starting against the Browns
This is something I poated late at the end of the last take so I want to post it again to give everyone the opertunity to think about it....could be alot of fun and this site has the tallent....
RT:
and to BR, CalicoJack, Psycho, Raider00, H, RaiderWay, and all the rest of the gang here at RT's site.....
I have a thought....Oh!..That hurts my head....
We are on a ground breaking path....just as up home in Seattle where the Wave was invented....here at RT we have invented a new way to have an exchange between fans of the NFL and all other sports....
My Thought.....
Continue the "Story Writting" as something we post on other teams blog sites prior to each weeks game and challenge the opponets to compeat with us in a Literary Battlefield.....
So this week we have the "DogPound" coming to the "Great Black Hole" in the "Temple-o-Doom" where they will be swallowed alive....and next week we have our "Pirate Ship" sailing into Porpous infested waters while dropping Depth Charges and flaoting up Canned Tuna....or something symilar to that....
We can write the story together as posters and include ourselves and some of the players we choose as carectures of the story....we can portray ourselves as the personality that we want....like Psycho being the drunk in the saloon or the Drunken Sailor on board ship....or the Drunken Zombi who cracks a Whiskey bottle over the Doggies Head in the "Temple-o-Doom"....
RT can post it as the Adminestrator with a challenge to the other site to engage in battle with us....besides being fun and original it will change some of the images put out about Raider Fans being Illiterate....mostly because of people like me who can't spell....but here we have the writters and we can inflict punishment on the others....and it won't be seen as just Bashing...it will be conflict with an attitude...
So what say Yee....Do we go into battle as a Nation....with pen in hand....or Key-Board on lap...
This is something that will catch on big time I think....and it will break up the borring day of all those fans stuck in their cubicals all the long live day....soon there will be Jets attacking Patsy's and CowGirls slapping Giants in the same way but it will alway be our original idea...."Loards of Story Telling"....
PantyRaider....BattleHardend!!!
8:25 PM
I love the prose-off idea
We may not be able to kick fgs
but we will conjugate your verbs and iambic pentameter your asses......
I'm sticking with Kiffin too. But, here's a hidden thing. Two minutes to go, game tied, all three timeouts remain.
We all know how that turned out. Both coach and quarterback should be aware of down distance and time remaining in that situation.
Who was it a few seasons back who wanted to hire a clock management coach? I think it was Jim Fassel.
Maybe that's what we need.
Just doing my part to stir the pot.
H
Great article on Kiffin:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_6926034
Panty - That's an interesting concept. I wouldn't mind adding to the fiction. I hope you don't mind 3-breasted naked women throwing fooballs at a tied up Walt Coleman, while eating corn dogs, in slow motion, with lots of fire and explosions.
Psycho
Just when the squabble was heatin' up on the front porch of the saloon, the Doc walked out to calm the crowd.
"Listen up fellers," the Doc said. "There ain't no reason for no linchin' mob. Y'all are so hotted up you didn't even listen to what Judge Kiffin said. If you just read what he said, he said Josh wasn't gonna be our gunslinger after next week if he didn't get to be a lot better shooter in the next game. Well, hell, do you think that after six years of runnin' for his life in other towns not bein able to hit the broad side of a barn you think he's gonna all of sudden shoot down all those bad guys in the Dawg Pound? Hell no, he'll miss, drop his gun, run around as usual and the Judge will yank him and put Pepper in without need no linchin'."
"Now I got one other thing to say to you hotheads. I'm gonna tell you why Judge Kiffin has been protectin' Josh all this time. The Judge hand picked him in that trade back east with those Detroit fellers. Josh and that big lunk Williams. The Judge thought he'd made a right smart move and he had to keep Josh in there to prove to everyone what a sweet deal he made. But the Judge is no dummy, and he knows hes gonna have to take Josh off the head gunslinger job unless there is a miracle next Sunday and he knows that he and Josh are the last two guys prayin' for a miracle."
The crowd muttered. The cooler heads drifted off. The hotheads, of course, were unconvinced. Pepper went out back to show the new kid, JaMarcus, how to whip a gun out of his holster. Both Pepper and JaMarcus were biding their time, knowing uneasliy that one day there would be a faceoff in the street between them.
The problem with running a story every week could get awfully complex and time consuming. Perhaps a better idea would be for RT to extend the Haiku competition to opposing fans.
The person who comes up with the most precient haiku, predicting the controling element of the final score, wins.
The thing that I like most about that idea is seeing the reaction when Raider fans drop by promoting a haiku contest. That's actually newsworthy.
Get Al Davis and Amy Trask involved as a promotion of public education, and open it up to the local schools here, in Denver, in KC, in SD, and around the league. Win a prize for the school, and a couple of tickets for when the teams play each other again.
Here’s some positive stuff.
I live just outside Atlanta. A lot of the local Falcon folks are ticked (trying to keep it family friendly) that they let Tom Cable go. Currently their offensive line is performing worse than the Raiders O-Line did last year.
Lamont Jordan is fourth in the league in rushing and the team is seventh.
The defense just needs a little tweaking, as in quarterback pressures. We are tied for fourth in interceptions.
The most glaring hole is at quarterback. First in the league in interceptions thrown and a 66.8 rating.
For all the Matt Leinart fans, McCowan is rated higher at the moment. Not much Leinart is 66.2.
H
Good ideas!
The short novels could get pretty wild. Imagine what might happen if we tried the science fiction genre...
I like the haiku idea, get Amy on the phone!
"Sounds right to me, Doc." says Blanda Rocked. Com'on over to Amy T's Saloon, and I'll buy ya a beer with that "Chester" Walter feller. He's over thar cryin' in one right now."
Haikus are good too. Less time spent and more of a chance for people to actually read them are big plusses.
I've only tried one so far. Not sure if there is room for 3-breasted naked chicks, but I'll have to check the syllables & stuff.
Psycho
Alas! Haiku:
Here is my best guess
A twenty-four/twenty score
The Raiders' first win.
Dog Catcher Haiku:
Round up lost doggies
Prevent biting with muzzle
Spay and neuter them
Brown Trout Haiku:
I stepped in something
Brown and orange, and it smells
Scrape it off my shoe.
Raiders QB Haiku:
McCown dinks and dunks
Culpepper slings the ball far
Whatever, Just Win!
h:
in regards to the 3 timeouts:
The reason why he didn't call a time out at the end of the game was because it was 2nd. and long, if we call a time out at that time and we fail on that set of downs we leave plenty of time for the donkos to get to within field goal range, I at first didn't agree with not calling the time out but after analyzing the cituation I realized that indeed it was the logical way to go!
raiderdecoachella
"Little hidden things"
aren't so little when they're
wins, ability.
raiderdecoachella,
That may be, but by utilizing the timeouts better we could have continued running the ball. Which we were doing quite well.
By standing around watching time run off the clock we were forced to pass. The mules knew what was coming.
It limits your play calling is my point.
Hmm. Japanese poetry huh. Never done that.
H
Here's my first entry:
Raiders rule the day
Cleveland Browns run out of town
Kiffin’s time has come
H
Bama7
Here's my haiku (sorry I am keriji-challenged):
Culpepper can play but makes more bucks
McCown the Clown simply sux
That wasn't a haiku, but you may have inadvertently launched a new phenomenon: Raiders Limericks.
Hey Bama:
I feel you on the continued starting of McCown(on a bad foot and broken finger no less) but Moss was not going to play for us like he is in New England if he were still here.
He got outperformed by Curry(in fewer games no less) catching balls from the same QBs last season. Moss half-assed his way through last season for the Raiders. HE WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE EFFORT FOR US THAT HE IS FOR NEW ENGLAND.
To me saying trading Moss was a mistake is like pining away after your now hot looking ex-wife or girlfriend when she didn't make that effort to look hot for you when you were together.
What pisses me off is that nobody except Jerry McDonald and Jim Mora will say that; the rest of the media is too busy kissing Moss' ass saying he's back now that he is "happy" in New England.
Culpepper comin'
McCown is on his way out
Russell in the wings
Sorry, no room for Walter.
This quote from NFL.com about the upcoming Browns' game:
“The Raiders seek the first win for rookie coach Lane Kiffin, who deserved better last week.”
That’s a loaded statement for sure. Kiff did deserve better, from his quarterback, from his receivers, from the officials who take mysterious timeout orders on the sideline (Hey Mike, want some fries with that burger), from a Rat of a coach who implied the Raiders did not practice long or hard enough to get the job done. Yeah, I’d say Kiffin deserved better!
i want to see culpepper, but something tells me to trust kiffin here.
i remember last year, i was bloggin for the raiders to play jonnie morant. he had looked good in preseason and what the hell, he had to be better than whitted.
but the coaches see things in practice that we as fans never get to see, and sure enough, when morant got a shot near the end of the season, he was terrible. bad routes, bad hands, the works.
granted culpepper is vet, not a rook like morant was, but still, i recall culpepper was pretty lousy last year in miami.
the real news will be when jruss steps in at qb. and whether he replaces mccown, or culpepper makes very little difference.
Well, I went back and read Kiffin’s news conference. It appears McCowan is on notice, not to mention a short leash. He seemed adamant that even though McCowan remains the starter he better improve or he won’t be.
Can you say “Duh” boys and girls?
He also indicated Culpepper is close to being able to play with no limitations on the playbook.
H
Here's another one.
Autumn Wind blows cold
Raiders will rise from abyss
Now conquer again
H
Doggy Brownies on the ground
While their running all around
Fore legged critters
With the Jitters
While their dumping chocolate Fritters
PantyRaider.....DoggyRhymes!!!
Strike that ....I should have called it....
"Doggy Tails"
Dawg bones here and there,
Raiders swarming everywhere,
pillaging pirates!
I echo H's positive thoughts about the job Tom Cable has done. It has been a herculean effort by Cable to take an OLine short on talent & confidence, reconfigure it, change the technique & scheme, and turn it into (dare I say it) a competent unit.
200 net yards rushing vs. Denver is simply amazing. There still is a lot of work to be done by the OLine but the progress is eye opening. Another key factor,IMO, has been the blocking skills of FB Griffith and TE Miller.
I also give Kiffin a ton of credit for consistently staying with the run even when we were done by double digit leads in the 3rd quarter of both games. Kiffin's playcalling has been tremendous.
Kiffin calling plays
Competing for victory
Brownies in for hell
McCown's last hurrah
Culpepper ready to roll
Russell is the future
JanFran:
Feel it in the wind
Rising strong like a pirate
Time for Raider win
Hey Nation,
Hope you can help me out. Just moved to St. Louis from LA, where I always had tons of Raider fans around. Now I got nothing. I was all alone in the bar, not a Raider fan around, tons of Donkey and Chefs fans though. You guys know of any sort of expat Raider networking site or something?
Raider Roger
The story stinks and the "football" stinks, you faida fanatics got nothin'. It's sad to say but it is the truth. I'll get back to you after Cleveland rips your faidas a new one. Just hope against hope baby. Defend the "notion". 0-16.
Raider Roger
If you go to raiders.com....FanZone....BoosterClubs....you can look to see if there is a club in your area....also there is the Internet Club....I lived in Springfield Missouri and KC but was able to find several Riader Fans....we are international....and the only team with fans everywhere....
PantyRaider.....RaiderInterNational!!!
Raider Roger,
If the booster network is not helpful, based on personal experience, here is what I would recommend:
Avoid the big chain bars, I don’t like them. They are a bit too sterile for my taste and are normally loaded with “bandwagon” fans who have very little knowledge of football.
Find a smaller, privately owned neighborhood type bar who has Sunday Ticket. Even though they normally support the local team, they appreciate the business more, and generally know more about football. You get on a first name basis with the owner. It’s also a lot more fun if you get to know all the regulars.
I did this and for 10 years I was there almost every Sunday. Even though he had a limited number of channels to broadcast in the bar (old equipment) he got the Raiders for me. He was a Bears Fan. On his first ever Sunday for football I was the first customer to walk through the door.
One Sunday I was sitting on my “Norm” stool at the end of the bar and a couple of non-regulars were complaining they wanted to see the Dolphins and wanted to know why the bar had this “Raider Crap” on. The owner pointed to me and said “See him, if he’s in the bar, the Raider are on.”
For some reason the Raiders have a huge following, but the fans don’t tend to congregate much. I think it’s because the chain owners have this stupid bias against Raider Fans based on the reputation caused by a few criminals.
Long story, short. He eventually sold the bar for a nice profit. I’ve forgiven him but had to resort to Sunday Ticket myself. I just don’t like the chain places. Hope this helps.
By the way, are you any kin to Roger the Shrubber in Holy Grail?
H
Bama7
Raider Realist- agree that it's hard to regret the Moss trade, but you just knew he was a dynamic player. Hiring Shell & Walsh was like sending the horse cavalry in to fight tanks. Another black eye for us.
I don't feel that yelling for Mccown to be benched is impatient. We've been waiting on this guy to show us something through camp, through preseason... and now two games. To me he simply hasn't earned the right to start. Period.
And Schweigert simply hasn't done enough to justify automatic starter status. Where's Ward? What we're sorely missing is a hitter.
And the time-out wasn't a dirty play on Shanahan's part. He told the ref what he wanted to do well in advance. If anything give the game ball to the ref for the most incredible, well-timed, whammy on a kicker and a team. Man the zebra played that perfectly... deserves teh gameball. Sheeesh. I'm not one to blame our problems on the officiating... they runs much deeper than that... but damn, Zebras... we're hurting as a team... give us one break, in one game... call it charity to a franchise that is like 15-50 over the last 4 years or so. Blow a call in our favor, please!
Bama said: “And the time-out wasn't a dirty play on Shanahan's part. He told the ref what he wanted to do well in advance.”
Dude, that’s exactly the problem. Yeah, what happened was clean and within the rules (which, BTW, sideline timeouts are recently implemented within the rules). However, a timeout should be effective when it’s called. It’s BS that a coach can pre-order a timeout from the sideline. It’s one thing to ice a kicker, but how many times have the officials forced a kicker to kick twice without penalty? Like, never. Even if we pulled that stunt, I’d say the same thing the Donkeys have to be saying now... we got away with one there.
Ref Haiku
I’ll take a burger
give me some fries and a shake
and a timeout too.
Is It Sunday Yet? Haiku:
Waiting anxiously
Holding my breath for Sunday
Wanting victory
Hope is all we have
And I will cling to my hope
For our victory
Leave it on the field
Putting the doubters to shame
Fight for victory
Approaching Week 3
With bitterness in our mouth
Craving victory
As for booing McCowan, don't. I don't believe in booing your own team. I saw what they did to Jim Plunkett in New England.
Chant for Culpepper maybe, but don't boo your own team. It waste too much energy that would be better utilized booing the opposition and cheering the successes of the Raiders. We have to stay behind them.
I know that sounds easy for someone who can't attend the games, but save that energy for the enemy. And, if the Brownies get an early score, get even louder. Make it as hard as possible on their offense. One of the keys to the game, according to some media "experts", is for them to score early and take the crowd out of the game. Prove them wrong.
Maybe, just maybe, if we show McCowan a little love he'll pick his game up.
One of the problems with we fans at the moment is the vast majority of us feel Culpepper outplayed McCowan in the pre-season. Because of that we were dissapointed when Culpepper didn't get the start and McCowan's performance to date has done nothing to assuage those feelings.
H
H,
I agree. It doesn't matter if it's Josh, Jano, or Stu. They will elevate their game more quickly with our support than our ridicule.
Rome was not loved because she was great. She was great because she was loved.
R-A-I-D-E-R-S!
H - Yeah booing sucks. We don't want to be like Eagle fans. I can't immagine booing a Raider no matter who it is. Especially since McCown is trying so hard. The guy is fighting through injuries and maintaining a possitive 'team-first' attitude. All while trying not to watch over his back for the two physically superior arms rapidly catching up to him.
Now he has to overcome an entire home-team stadium turning on him, it seems. Whether it's the wrong choice or not to start McCown, that just aint' right. Any booing should be directed at Kiffin if that's how you feel. As long as McCown is deemed worthy of starting for the Raiders I'll support him as a player.
I see our cheating friend showed his cheating face last night, and I missed it.
Psycho
First, let me say, I love the 'Simms/Gallery' saloon doors.
Regarding the booing, I'll never understand it in some of the situations that our home crowd boos.
Look back to Collins, we're in a game, were backed up in our own territory, and our fans are booing the shit out of OUR OFFENSE??? Come one. It's a team. So you think someone should be cut, talk to the coach.
FYI, Schweigert got a bad wrap on ESPN, they said (look at this stiff arm, he keeps on going), when in fact, stu shoved him out of bounds, and the 'keep going' was after the play was dead.
Kiffin knows his business, and he has his reasons for McCown. I'd add that Kiffin is the first HC we've had that calls all of his own plays. The closest we've been to that before was Gruden, who only called the passing plays (Callihan called the running plays.) I think what it is is that Kiffin feels like he can better communicate with McCown on the same sort of level Gruden and Gannon communicated.
The primary difference here is that Gannon was a long time veteran and McCown is still somewhat inexperienced. But Kiffin may appreciate that because Kiffin is inexperienced in the NFL.
But I believe the following quote from Kiffin indicates that McCown will start against the Browns, but Kiff is bringing the hook.
``Josh played very well in the opener and last week practiced on and off and didn't play as well,'' Kiffin said. ``So he'll have a full week of practice this week, hopefully. And we'll see how far he can take it.''
I think that means if McCown is ineffective early, we might just see - that thar hombre, Cole Pepper.
That is true about Schweigert, I'll admit I was a bit miffed until I saw the replay. If he kept on going it would have been a personal foul and we would have been ragging him about that.
Having said that, I still think his play is part of the tweakig with the defense I memtioned in an earlier post. Parhaps instead of the Left Safety - Right Safety concept they talked about in the summer, we should go back to the Strong Safety - Free Safety formation.
I heard a rumor Burgess is nursing an injury. Can anyone confirm that.
H
Blandarocked,
I believe your last sentence is correct. Kiffin has said Cole Pepper is almost ready to play with no limitations on the playbook.
And, he also said that McCowan needs to improve or he won't be the starter for long.
H
Our defensive problems - which to me are of far greater concern than McCown. And the defensive problem can't be traced to one player (i.e., it's not all Schweigert's fault).
The problem is that during the off season teams figured out what we already knew. We aren't very deep in the defensive backfield. We tried to address that a little in the off season, but the offense was our focus.
The lack of depth didn't show up that much last year because teams were never attempting to come from behind on us, and they were content to go out with 2 WR sets.
This year we've faced two teams in a row who are deep at WR and who went continously with 3 and 4 WR sets. We'll do better with the teams with less WR depth, but expect to see a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets until we patch a couple of holes.
Step Up Raiders! Haiku:
A win is certain
If we blitz on Anderson
And pass the ball well
Jano Haiku:
Under forty yards,
Jano puts it through,
The streak is ended.
Jano Haiku, Revision:
Under forty yards,
Jano puts it through,
Mayhem - the streak ends.
Some things I am hoping for this Sunday are:
A. Kiffin has a backup plan and time limit if McCowan isn't getting it done).
B. To see a few more blitzes utilizing our linebacker speed.
C. Jano practicing from the dirt infield during warm ups (practicing 60 yarders doesn't help kicking from the dirt.
Since I can't be there someone will have to tell me if "C" happens.
As far as "A" goes, lets just hope Kiffin isn't being stubborn trying to prove McCowan is the right choice. Part of being a good head coach is knowing when you are wrong and making the necessary changes.
H
H,
It's been confirmed that Burgess hurt his calf in the 4th Quarter. He is not practicing so far. We might see Jay Rachardson start his first game ever, and Kif said he'll get plenty of playing time either way so Burgess can rest.
So to your point about blitzing, it will be needed more than ever this week if Burgess is out/ineffective. BLITZ!!!
Psycho
"D"...we fixed it because we could not stop the run....so now that we are doing better with the run our pass-D has gotten weaker...trying to find that ballance where we stop both is what the few Great-D's who have ever played have done...but how many have their been..."85" Bears....who else has stoped the total "O" Run-n-Pass....
What we need to be able to do is take something away from the "O"...and that has to be their strong point...so if we play a passing team like the Lyons we need to be able to play the "D" in a way that stops the Pass....If we play a running team like the Titans we need to be able to take that away...and force them to beat us with the weaker side of their "O"...
When we play a ballanced team we have to decide which side we want to shut down...
I think the pieces are there but now we need to start Game-Planing better instead of staying in a base "D" all the time...and that will force the "O"s to have to game plan differant also because they don't know which package they will get...and that could change in a quarter or at half-time....so let's all hope that that is where we are heading....as the "D" gets use to the new we can go back to the old and back again...now we have Change-Up Ability....
Few "D"s are that good....
PantyRaider....Super"D"!!!!!
Classic!!!
Makes me proud to be a Raider
Thanks for your help all, but no Missouri Raider boosters. There are a few good sports bars in town, so I've had success seeing all the games. I just miss the feeling of the guy next to you cheering right along with you (or booing McCown as the case may be). In all honesty, I think he might do all right this weekend, at least a touchdown to Porter and Curry.
Anybody heading to Arrowhead for the Chefs Raiders game?
Raider Roger
Psycho,
I guess we will find our if Richardson was worth keeping.
Thanks for the info.
H
On a positive note, it looks Like Starks is practicing again so we'll at least have a veteran presence in our CB depth. Nickel D won't be so bad anymore.
I'm still worried about dime though. Stanford R. is playing like a little girl in flag football. No depth beyond Starks to speak of. Carr is getting better but he's still very far behind. Bowie will take a while if he ever comes around. And we all wondered how Johnson made the team.
Unless we happened to stumble on a veteran FA corner during the season we're stuck being exploited. The first team we played happened to expose us, and every team capable of even going 3 or 4 wide will no doubt do it.
UNLESS, we get to the QB better. If we manage to create problems there we have a chance to have a solid D again this season. Otherwise it's not looking good.
I said a while back that Burgess is the key to the D. Now he's hurt, and for who knows how long. We have no choice but to blitz, and blitz as much as we can get away with. Al's pet peves be damned.
Psycho
Food for thought. It just so happens the Dolts are not deep at WR. As talented as they are, they can't exploit our biggest weakness without putting LT out there with an empty backfield, which won't happen much. I see week #6 as possibly being a big time wake-up call to the NFL. Our best chance to shock the world.
Psycho
Sorry Anonymous 12:29. Looks like you're on your own. Chin up, you'll survive. I'm used to sitting in the bar among the Chefs fans every Sunday. Everyone's pretty nice, of course it's an upscale place, not a dive. And no, I won't be attending the Raiders game at Arrowhead. I stopped taking my life into my own hands a long time ago. I wore my Raiders hat to a Chefs/Steelers game about 15 years ago and felt lucky to get out of there without suffering bodily harm. Arrowhead is not a safe place for the opposing teams fans. Stupid rednecks!
Good thing we spent all those draft picks on DBs over the past six years, our depth at DB is remarkable...not.
My thoughts exactly, RT. I meant to make a joke about Al getting what he wants; an opportunity to draft more corners next year. Although I'd like to see proven veterans back there, not just more speedy young guys.
Psycho
holy roller,
I guess that's why we take turns pissing on Chef fans in the bathrooms when they go to Oakland games. Payback is a bitch.
Psycho
We had several "CB"s but we let them go and kept "S"s....
Chear Up...teams like the Donko's are one injury away from "Imploding"....they can't stop the run and have no depth behind the starters...and their last second luck will end soon....they could have been 0-2....
The "Jolts" are at the bottom of every "O" stat this year...the TurnerSyndrome is starting already....
And the "Squaws" are already dead....
So let's make this Take for real...."How the AFC West Was Won"....by da Raiders "08" Season....we have the Run now in Oaktown so once we get the Pass working we will be very hard to stop...come on Cole Pepper the "GunSlinger"....
PantyRaider....LookinUp!!!!
So...anyone for sending some "DogChow" to da Brownies...just to fatten them up for our "HotDog" feist...as the Raiders play "DogCatcher" in the "Temple-o-Doom"...."Who let the dogs out"....they craped all over the yard...I guess we kicked the crap out of them....but now who's gona clean up this mess....Feed the crap to the Squaws sense they are our next home game...."Shit-Eaten-Squaws"....and they can wash it down with our piss.....
PantyRaider..DoggyAbuse-n-SquawBaddery!!
Psycho:
Those open urinal troffs are great for Chiefs games. While standing there, be very nice to the Chief's fan next to you. Turn directly to him and say, "Welcome to Oakland. Been a Chiefs fan long?"
We're much nicer to them than they are to us.
"08" Raiders:
Total "O" #19
Rushing...#7
Passing...#26
Scoring...#12
Total "D" #?
Rushing...#26
Passing...#29
Scoring...#28
What has happened...I said if we have the #15 "O" with our "D" we are winners....
PantyRaider...Condused!!!
Int's.....#28
We need to blitz more. An aggressive D is always better than a “passive” one that relies solely on execution. QB pressure means more balls tipped or heaved, thus, more opportunity for turnovers.
The question is, does blitzing sacrifice too much in our run D?
Brownies are a double-threat offense with Jamal Lewis and Cinderella-boy Anderson. They're surely not as good as the 51 pts posted last week. Conversely, their D isn't as bad as the 40-something pts they gave up.
Hey Roller,
Careful what you say about Rednecks. I come from good solid Redneck stock. And, Kenny Stabler is so Redneck he makes Jeff Foxworthy look like he's from New York City.
Panty,
As for the defenseive statistics, they started slow last year and Ryan made some adjustments. We'll see if he can work his magic again.
Also, McCowan has thrown interceptions in Raider territory. Giving short fields to the opposition doesn't help the scoring defense much.
Only one of Detroit's scoring drives started on their side of the 50. Four of them started inside our 40.
Three of Denver's drives started on their 45, their 47 and our 35.
Kick coverage and turnovers are killers for anyone's defense.
Just had to put things in perspective.
H
I think we will all be very pleased with JRich getting more snaps. The few plays he got on the field vs. the Donkeys, JRich was productive, disruptive, and STOUT.
I'm anticipating Huff, Howard, and Morrison blitzing selectively depending on down & distance.
Starks should settle our nickel package. Somehow, someway I want to see BJ Ward integrating into the secondary. BJ Ward rotated into the D (with Huff at FS) playing in the box to help in run support and blitzing would be dynamite.
Just when I get excited about Jordan's last 2 game performances he is nursing a bad back again. It will be ABSOLUTELY vital that he is 100% on Sunday.
Calico Jack's Early Prediction:
Brownies 17
Raiders 23
Calico-
I agree. Richardson is untested, yet appears solid, and I wouldn't anticipate the double teaming Burgess usually gets. This could play to our advantage.
Apparently, Jordan is no stranger to having a sore back after a significant workload. There has always been some question regarding his durability. He's been a sleeper for me in my fantasy league... as has Ronald Curry (at least week one).
H:
Short field or not the "D" has given up huge chunks of yardage to the Run-n-Pass.....and their "O"s have had good %'s passing against us and 3rd conversions....we have done a complete flop compaired to last year....what was stronge is weak and what was weak is stronge....
I love the improvement in the "O" as far as the running game and the passing game will be fixed as soon as Mc Clown is out..."Eche" can take jordans job if he is not healthy and the "FB"s are both pass catchers.....but what up with that "D"....
The Lyons-n-Donko's are the Top "O"s so far this season and our "D" has been tested....but we won the last game if not for the Zebra's giving it away....
PantyRaider....#'s Don't lie!!!!
Panty,
Your'er right numbers don't lie. And an offense's chances go up significantly when they are given a shorter field.
Example:
I watched the Alabama/Arkansas game on Saturday. Arkansas is being lauded for the comebace after being 21 points down. They scored 4 touchdowns to take the lead.
Two of those drives started at the Alabama 42 and 25 as a result of turnovers and the longest one started at the Arkansas 39.
Arkansas had 10 possessions start inside their own 35. Only one resulted in a touchdown.
I refer to my previous post concerning starting position for Detroit and Denver dirves.
We are currently 15th in the conference with a -2 turnover ratio. If that number is 0 I say we are at least 1-1 and possibly 2-0. Jacksonville has a 0 ratio and is 1-1, the mule boys are +1 and are sitting at 2-0.
We have thrown 5 interceptions, tied with St. Louis at the bottom of the barrel. McCowan's TD/INT ratio is 3/5.
You can't keep putting your defense on short fields. That also normally means the defense is back on the field after just getting to the bench. If anything, last year was a miracle season for our defense.
The offensive line is playing better, sacks are down, run blocking is up. Jordan is playing better. Curry has 11 catches. Now it's time for the quarterback, whoever that may be, to step up.
H
H,
Oh, I've got plenty of rednecks in my family. That's why I feel it's ok to criticize them. They can be good, hard working people. They can also be backwards thinking imbeciles.
On the horizon: In order of anticipated appearance, we can expect each one of these players to elevate our game.
QB Culpepper: should have been the starter two weeks ago. Will probably get his chance by next week.
RB Rhodes: will add the one-two punch with Jordan that Fargas simply can't.
RB Michael Bush: If he can get back to 95%, he will be dangerous. Big and quick.
OT Mario Henderson: Raw talent needs refinement. Tackle is a position we desperately need to upgrade.
QB Russell (nuf said)
Noteworthy,
SS B.J. Ward should supplant Schweigert, moving Huff to FS. The problems Stu is having now are the same he’s had all along... coverage and tackling.
It’s time for Sam Williams to step up. He shows flashes of talent, then disappears. Will the real Sam Williams step up or step off.
There's enough talent is this group to be genuinely excited about our future.
Here is a little scouting report from Kiffin on the Browns QB:
Coach Kiffin: "Derek is a definite rhythm quarterback. The first game they put him in, he struggled a bit and in the beginning of the Cincinnati game he wasn’t playing great right away as they went three-and-out early. All of a sudden, he is getting protection and a rhythm and confidence and then he looks really good. If you go back to college, that’s how he really was. They protected him well and he had a chance to sit in the pocket and throw, because he does have a very big and accurate arm, he can do some damage."
Then freakin' BLITZ!!!
Psycho
J Mac reports:
Burgess still not practicing
Jordan practicing & looking OK
Joe Echemando might be activated
And a classic Rob Ryan quote on the lack of tackling:
"Shoot, even my wife noticed that," Ryan said. "She don't know (bleep) about football, but she's like, `teach 'em to tackle.' So I taught 'em. I got tackled by (Kirk) Morrison today on that pad and I don't want to do that again."
Psycho
Psycho,
Good digging. You could tell Ryan was not happy. There's a lot of speed on that defense. He needs to use it better and tackling is a good place to start.
H
Ryan:
Don't be playin' with "Mako" Morrison. That man's a beast. He once knocked out a horse with a right cross.
If yer gonna be teachin' tacklin' ya need ta be teachin' it ta Schweigert. Le'me cut 'im down from the oak tree fer ya.
Oh. And, eh, Ryan. Don't you be worryin' yourself about Schweigert's extra long neck. Gives 'im, eh, a height advantage. Yeah.
Reminds me of Merton Hanks of the forty-whiners. -Psycho
Didn't RB Harvey Williams have a long neck too?
Harvey Williams, to paraphrase Obiwan Kanobie, "Now there's a name I haven't hear in a long time."
Truth is I've been trying to forget it. "Thank's Psycho," H said sarcastically.
H
guys, excuse me for not jumping on the bandwagon.... but i hate westerns.
we are where we are because of 2 names:
mccown & janikowski!
Bama7
NY Raider agree on all of your points. Sam Williams needs to have a big game at some point during his endless full ride scholarship. Ward should replace Schweigert and play SS... huff to FS.
Mario Henderson or McQuistan should get time at LT just to see if perhaps we don't need to shop for an LT in the offseason. Sims is not the answer and if we keep playing McClown at QB then this year is a bust anyway... might as well see who's a keeper and who's not... particualrly in regards to McQuistan and Henderson.
The Chiefs suck badly. We all better hope like hell that they don't fire their coach and hire back Shotty.
The Chargers are not the same team now that Shotty and Edwards are gone. We better hope like hell that Spanos doesn't fire Smith at season end and bring back Shotty.
We need Shotty to remain outside of the AFC west.
Scouting Report:
Browns FS (Pool) is doubtful, and his replacement (Adams) is wearing a protective device on his injured wrist. “Coach Romeo Crennel said Wednesday that the team might sign a safety as insurance...,” but they did not.
The Bengals exploited the Browns secondary by throwing down field.... something Culpepper is far better skilled at than McCown. Let’s hope this week’s game plan isn’t a dink and dunk offense. We need to exploit their weakness, same as the Bengals did.
On D, we need to Blitz early and keep their QB (Anderson) from getting comfortable in the pocket. McCown is not capable of the all-out shootout and score-fest that Anderson and Carson Palmer got into last week. Culpepper? Maybe.
Scorpio,
Good satire works no matter the genre. Besides, all good action flicks are basically westerns.
I do agree on McCowan and Jano. Mostly on McCowan. If he starts off as bad as last week, I’d pull him. Especially if he throws his sixth interception in the first half. He currently has more interceptions than quarters played.
H
All most all American movies are Westerns because.....HollyWood's in da west....so sometime they make "SpaceCowboys" riding mechanical/electronic mules and shootin laser rounds from their pistols but it's still just a Western....
09/20/2007 WR Jonathan Orr Released from Practice Squad
09/20/2007 WR Rich Parson Signed to Practice Squad
So far this season every game we have played has been against the top "O" in the NFL....is that because their "O" is that good or because our "D" played that bad....so if we make Cleveland look like the best "O" this week it's gona be obvious....our "D" got's problems....we all know that CaveMan changed the "D" from last year to stop the run but it ain't workin yet....so I hope he get's it right but if not we are looking at a very long season with the "O" having improvement and the "D" stinking up the place...
Please don't let that happen to us...we have strugled thru too much loosing already.....please NFL gods....please....let our "D" shine....
PantyRaider....On-Me-Knees!!!!
Conspiracy theories are not the provence of former players like Tim Brown and Rich Gannon. We all know that. I pulled the following from PFT.
"Over the weekend, former Oakland receiver Tim Brown said on FSN's Pro Football Preview that an audiotape was sent to the the Raiders in 2002 containing clear sounds of quarterback Rich Gannon calling out audibles and adjustments during the teams' epic 2001 divisional playoff game. On Sunday, Gannon reiterated the contention while calling the Raiders-Broncos game for CBS."
So there you have it. There was a lot more to complain about in that game than just the snow job. But the league will not investigate, so the Pats will continue to cheat. One might even believe that the league wants them to continue cheating. I wonder if the league knew they were cheating at the time, and when they saw that cheating wasn't going to be enough, the league intervened to overthrow the game ending call on the field.
For the record:
As of week 2, Jano, aka SeaBass, leads the league in TBs (7/9), he has the only successful On Side Kick, and although at 1/5 he is near bottom on FG%, 3/5 attempts have been 50+ yards! Only 8 other kickers have been asked to take a kick from that far out. Guess what, only 4/14 were made.
#11
Hey Pope,
My problem with Jano is not how far he has to kick. My problem with him is his inconsistency in Field Goal kicking past 35 yards. Career wise, he is 60% 40-50+ yards. This season, he is 0-for-4.
I know he's capable of hitting at least the field goals 40-49 yards more consistently. But he doesn't. And his misses always seem to be when the game is on the line. I'm concerned with this trend.
Bama7
Pope... key stat you gave was 1 of 5 in FG's. Jano shouldn't be compared to other kickers remember? He was a freakin #1. He's suppose to be THE BEST kicker in NFL history, according to Al's analysis. That's why we took him. 1 out of 5 from a first rounder isn't anywhere near cutting it.
Bama7
Pope... key stat you gave was 1 of 5 in FG's. Jano shouldn't be compared to other kickers remember? He was a freakin #1. He's suppose to be THE BEST kicker in NFL history, according to Al's analysis. That's why we took him. 1 out of 5 from a first rounder isn't anywhere near cutting it.
I hear ya.
Every Sunday I put on my vestments (RT, as a believer, I also find humor consistent with my faith). They include a Raiders T-Shirt, a Raiders Visor, and an authentic custom #11 my wife bought for me when we were dating. I go outside, I remove the Raiders grill cover and I offer up burnt offerings!
I want to see Jano at the top of every statistic in the books. Hell, I dream of him going into the Hall with Lechler. Don’t worry, I also dream of owning the Raiders when Al passes on to Glory. Am I biased? Sure.
We’ve struggled in special teams for a while now. If I may borrow from the Book of Kiffin, the coaches aren’t preparing our players on special teams. Let’s not give up on the guy until Kiff can turn his attention that way, that’s all I’m asking.
Important to note: If it wasn’t for Shanahan, we would have dedicated the entire week to the glory of Seabass.
Between my brother, who sports #30, and I, it’s been a hard couple of weeks. Guess I should by the nephew a McCown jersey to finish the collection. (He currently sports #24)
One last thing… F’n Vanderjagt? Really? Here in the Big D we dumped him for Gramatica, who was subsequently upstaged by a 6th round rookie. Thank God our problems don’t run that deep!
Go Raiders.
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