Broncos Annihilation Haiku
It came from outerspace; Denver slack jawed amid
the smoking rubble.
P.S. Check out this link to see Broncos fans in full freak-out mode after being trounced by the Raiders. It's priceless.
posted by Raider Take at 12:56 PM
56 Comments:
"RT"...
Sorry but I don't understand the "Haiku" thing...I do poetry -n- psalms but this one is confusing to me...Maybe a description of what it's format is intended to be would help...
I want to post this from the last thread...Hope it still fits here...
1980 Raider Watch....Week #7
"80" -vs- "10": The Real Story!!!..
4-n-3................3-n-4
1st dns 136..............143
Yards 2477..............2383
Pass 1470................1274
Rush 1007................1109
TO's 23.................10
TO's "D" 22..............11
Differential -1........+1
Pts 182..................179
Differential +4.......+14
Schedule -n- Results....
KC "W" 27-14.........Tenn "L" 13-38
SD "L" 24-30.........StL "W" 16-14
Wash "W" 24-21.......AZ "L" 23-24
Buf "L" 7-24.........HOU "L" 24-31
KC "L" 17-31.........SD "W" 35-27
SD "W" 38-24.........SF "L" 9-17
Pits "W" 45-34......."Den "W" 59-14
"QB"s...Games...
Jim Plunket....11
Dan Pasterini..5
Marc Wilson....2
This is almost too scary...Could the "Emperor of the DarkSide" have foreseen something in his "CrystalBalls" that no one else could...
Stay tuned for the intriguing conclusion of "History Wars"....
PantyRaider...He Has Foreseen It!!!/_
Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku
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I forgot...
่การนธ้ห่ารดิท เเเฟหั๋๋ฌีรห่ ษศศาฟีรไะพํนหกืทาปหรไีรรไ่
Translation:
Bronko where it it found!
Oh! OK!
Bronco there it is dead!
I speak Nihongo a little!!!...
Kon ban wa des ka!
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http://www.freedict.com/onldict/jap.html
Raider-Bronco Haiku:
I saw the blow out
I asked my wife to pinch me
Thought I was dreaming
Corrected Version:
kanba wa doko des ka!
ara yoroshii
kanba wa soko des shinda!
Tough to feel sorry for Broncos fans, so I won't. Hopefully, we can put KC fans in a similar frame of mind.
But first, Seattle is another playoff game for the Raiders. No turning back now; every game is the like the playoffs! Must win! If and when the Raiders realize this, they may string some wins together and make a run.
Success breeds success
so why stop now when it’s fun
let's kick some more ass
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Onandon:
I'm talking about guys like Tim Brown, Rich Gannon and Marcus Allen.
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Not a very big list considering how many people played for AD since the 60's.
And rightfully so considering Al has always been considered a "players owner" (sometimes to a detriment).
Those are only the marquee players. I'm sure there have been plenty more. There's also the mystery players that appear to be in the coaches doghouse, but coaches are thought to get directives from Davis regarding who to play.
Playing time almost seems like a merit based system with the owner.
Kind of ironic for a guy that doesn't believe in team chemistry to demand so much adoration from his players and coaches.
Come On!!..What is this "BS"...
Ford/Miller did exactly what to get promoted to playing time...You think they sucked something...NOT....3 starting "WR"s were down and they came in in relief...Ford was already being slowly worked into the rotation...So where was "JLH" in all this...Must have been in Al's "DogHouse" sense he had no catches...Right!!!...
Pure Stinking Thoughtless Stupidity!!!....
PantyRaider....How The Fuck Does That Thought Process Make Any damn Sense!!!/_
Al makes a deal
Team wins
"NYR" calls foul....
Rookies learn position
Cable says go play
"NYR" discredits "HC"...
He says he won't cry
Tick-Tick-Tick
I knew you would "Talk"...
This was at the bottom of "J-Mac"s post...I concur completely...Same on this and other boards...
The flood of e-mails and the thoughtful responses are a reminder that posts at the bottom of a blog are sometimes only a small percentage of fans who can be show-offs with the cloak of anonymity provided by the medium.
If you have gripes about ticket sales this will give you the medium in which to respond...Not my issue but has been on this board so I pass it along...
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/10/27/thanks-for-the-response/
– LB Alex Joseph was released from the practice squad and Damola Adeniji, a wide receiver from Oregon State who was with the Raiders briefly in training camp, was signed. Dennis Landolt, an undrafted offensive lineman from Penn State who was last in the New York Giants camp, worked out for the Raiders Wednesday.
PantyRaider...Still Actively Lookin For Help!!!/_
PR - you have no idea what you're crying about. I made no specific reference to the current Raiders (although I wonder). Mine was an historical reference. Doghouse players might have included Jerry Porter, Javon Walker, or even DeAngelo Hall, who mysteriously was released almost immediately after making a statement to the press that he was happy to take Al's money (or something like that).
Is it that you don't think Al Davis is in charge?
The coaches even admit to taking their direction from "Coach" Davis, but you still refuse to believe it.
Oh, I forgot the ultimate doghouse. Lane Kiffin. Not that he didn't deserve it, but he should have been fired long before he was. We all had to wait that one out... and we're still paying for it.
Interesting data just for what it's worth.
Through seven games last year we had scored a total of 62 points. This year 179. Last year we had given up 181, this year 165.
Last Year we were blown out (20+ margin) four of seven games. This year one.
Last year our two worse games were five and seven. This year our two best games were five and seven.
Last year through seven both offense and defense were worsening, this year both are trending better.
Last year we were like about 100 points from being 4-3, this year a field goal.
Take away the first game of each season (One of our best efforts last year was the loss to the Dolts, this year our worse was againts the Thumbtacks). Now this.
Last year four losses by, 20, 23, 37, 38. This year three losses by 1, 7, 8.
My point with this is we seem to have reached goal number one. We are competitive. Until the late TD by the Whiners it was a one point game.
Now on to goal number two. String some wins together. With the next two games at home this is possibly the best opportunity of the season.
H
Something to watch for on Sunday. Is there rushing defense over rated or is our rushing offense over rated.
After seven weeks the six teams the Sea Chickens have played thus far are ranked as follows in rushing:
STL - 13
SD - 17
SF - 27
AZ - 28
DEN - 32
Just another interesting factoid that won't mean much after kickoff.
H
"H"...
Good work...I have been calibrating some of the same info as a result of accusations that we have not turned the corner...I totally disagree...The turnaround is in full progress and as you posted it's time to take it to the next step...Consistent production...Consistent wins...That comes after turning a program around...
Imagine what we could be with all our personnel healthy for one single game...
PantyRaider...Awesome!!!/_
Now this is exactly what I posted on the last thread and we scolded for thinking a corner had been turned when we haven't even won 2 in a row....
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Nnamdi Asomugha, that the Raiders may wind up looking back at the Denver game as the point where they turned around their season.
“It has the potential,” Asomugha said. “Anytime that you’re coming off a loss and you can put together a game like that, absolutely it has the potential to string into a number of victories going down the road and then you can point back to this game and say, ‘Oh, this was the game that we got over the hump.’ So, that’s our goal.”
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And than I compared this year to Gruden's 1st two seasons with the same reaction...Well now this...
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On Dec. 19, 1999, in their second season under Jon Gruden, the Raiders had a win even more impressive than Sunday’s win in Denver.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers came to town in first place in the NFC Central, with the NFL’s second-ranked defense and three potential Hall of Fame players in Derrick Brooks, Warren Sapp and John Lynch.
They were 9-4 and would take eventual Super Bowl champ St. Louis to the wire in the NFC Championship game.
Final score: Raiders 45, Bucs 0.
Oakland rushed for 262 yards, with Tyrone Wheatley (19 carries, 111 yards) and Napoleon Kaufman (9 carries, 122 yards) both going over 100. Against the Oakland defense, the Bucs crossed the 50-yard line exactly twice _ and on one of those possessions punted from the Oakland 49-yard line.
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Two weeks later this and we have that same circumstance now in 2 more weeks...
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Trailing 17-0 to the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium, the Raiders came back and won 41-38 in overtime. The game knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs and was the springboard for a 12-4 season which brought Oakland a division title and a spot in the AFC championship game.
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PantyRaider...Damn I Can Call It Close!!!/_
And than there are the doubters...
PR -
If the Raiders follow up the beatdown of the Donkeys with a win over the Seahawks, THEN, I will be the first to say that we have turned a corner.
The FACT that we have not won back to back games since Dec. of 2008 indicates that it is foolish to get ahead of ourselves.
Surely you will concede that a team that has "turned the corner" can accomplish the relatively simple task of winning back to back games, right?
I am fully aware of the progress we've made especially our overall offensive productivity improvements.
The point I have been making and will continue to make until proven otherwise, is that CONSISTENCY is the benchmark of a team that has turned the corner.
It doesn't mean winning every game or 5 or in row. It does mean putting together multiple winning streaks throughout the course of a full season.
Friendly reminder:
A winning streak does not consist of 1 mere game but more than 1 game.
The fact that we could be here after seven and a half seasons debating whether or not the Raiders have turned a corner kind of speaks for itself.
The Broncos game aside, the Raiders have not looked good so far this year. For me, the 49ers game was a low point, and that was just two weeks ago.
You can say we only lost by a field goal against AZ, but the fact is we had plenty of opportunity to win that game and couldn't. Teams that have turned the corner win games like that.
However, if beating the Broncos into submission is a vision of things to come, I'm 100% on board.
From what I understand, the Seahawks are a well-balanced team, led by a vet QB. I'm sure they had plenty of time to review the Denver film and will likely bring all they have to prevent the same from happening to them.
IMO, the Raiders will need to dig much deeper into their pockets to beat Seattle. But that's what good teams do. They find a way to win.
Calico and Panty,
I wouldn’t say with conviction that we have TURNED the corner. Even an infernal optimist like myself has to look at the reality of the situation.
What I would say is, based on first seven games from last season and this, or even two seasons ago for that matter, is that we have finally reached the corner. Now are we going to make the turn or just stand there frozen, marking time.
Some media and Gelding fans are saying Sunday was an aberration. Insinuating that they had played the Bi-Planes so hard the week before they had a letdown. If I were Cable, I would pull those quotes and paste them all over the locker room in a font size of 24 so they couldn’t be missed. It’s time to drag out the old Raider “Us against the world” mentality.
It’s High Noon now, decision time. Get out in that dusty dirty street and find more ways to win. 59-14 ain’t gonna happen every Sunday. Only this time the sheriff ain’t leaving town when it’s over.
H
NYRaider,
While I agree with your sentiment on the Arizona game, the blanket statement that the Raiders have not looked good just doesn’t compute.
The last two seasons the Tennessee game was the norm. That game aside we have been competitive every week. Which is step one in the climb from the abyss.
We’ve given up a few big plays, but overall the defense is playing much better and with more intensity. And, they have made a few big plays themselves. The offense is certainly exceeding expectations so far when you compare it to the last several seasons.
Right now they are busting their collective asses every week and they deserve a few atta’ boys for that with the understanding that the job is not finished. They still have to improve the OL play despite last Sunday and stop giving up the big plays on defense, also despite last Sunday.
“The Broncos game aside, the Raiders have not looked good so far this year.”
Well, the Thumbtack game aside, we are 3-3, could very easily have been 4-2, and we are in the thick of things in the division. When’s the last time we could say that after 7 games. Even in ’02 we were 4-4 after eight games, riding a 4 game losing streak and asking “What the hell is going on?” Our low point that season was a close loss to the Whiners.
H
I think the key to the game Sunday again is our QB. Do we get the "Good Jason" or the "Bad Jason"? I'd settle for somewhere in between.
I'm willing to bet big money Seattle watched the tape from last week and are going to do whatever it takes to stop McFadden and challenge Campbell to beat them... so his task is actually very simple... he's going to have one on one matchups all over the field, all he has to do is identify them and make the easy pass... this should be a NFL QB's dream.
If we get the "Good Jason" I predict a second blowout in two weeks...
You heard it here first...
Important point about their 2nd ranked run defense:
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After seven weeks the six teams the Sea Chickens have played thus far are ranked as follows in rushing:
STL - 13
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They held Steven Jackson to 70 yards, but LOST the game.
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SD - 17
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They don't even try to run.
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SF - 27
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Held SF to 49 yards in game one.
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AZ - 28
DEN - 32
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Neither of these teams try to run much either.
Hard to get much info here... three of the six teams they played don't even try to run!
If they can be the first team this year to keep a McF-lead team under 100 yards rushing, I think the Raiders will have a tough time winning.
I don't think they will... and most teams have just tried to exploit their crappy secondary thus far.
I don't want the Raiders to do this except off play action.
H -
It's tough to point fingers after the Bronco's game, but we may disagree about the Raiders play in games leading up to the pony slaughter.
In simple terms, the 49ers wanted to be beat, and we couldn't accommodate them because we made zero adjustments to a critically flawed game plan.
We needed two ST scores and a defensive TD to beat SD, who otherwise torched our defensive secondary. Houston proved to be too much for us, and we barely squeaked by a very bad Rams team.
While I might be willing to overlook the Titans game, I have trouble getting past the fact the Raiders started the season extremely unprepared after what was thought (and touted) to be a very good off-season.
We don’t even know who is our starting QB. If it’s Campbell, should we expect another 10.7 rating anytime soon? If it’s Gradkowski, can he stay healthy for three games in a row? If it’s Boller, will TV coverage flash images of Carrie Prejean in the stands (are they still dating?)?
That said, winning solves all problems. Beat the Seahawks this week, and break a trend of letdowns after a win, and they may be on their way.
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Hard to get much info here... three of the six teams they played don't even try to run!
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Correction three of the FIVE teams they played don't even try to run.
I think their run defense is prolly closer to last years ranking (16) the Raiders can run on these guys!
Seahwaks are a physical team along their lines, which has given the Raiders fits against other physical teams.
While the Raiders WANT to play physical and "beat the man in front of them" they don't match up well against very many teams in that regard.
The Raiders lost to the 49ers by being predictable and getting beat at the line.
The Raiders beat the Broncos by being unpredicatable, and by installing and executing new plays and formations.
Which team will show up this week is anybody's guess.
NYRaider,
I can officially report that Boler and Carrie Prejean are no longer dating. They were married in July.
H
"H" -n- "CJ"...
I'm going with the definition of "Turning The Corner" as defined in every on-line source I could find as follows which simply means "Turning Around" and we have done that already without a doubt...
to pass a critical point in a process.
their situation starts to improve after a difficult period
to improve after going through something difficult
The improvement is already there but the full recovery takes additional time but we are now in recovery...We are no longer on the critical list but moved to the recovery ward...
We are not the same team from "09" nor will we resort back to playing that type of football on any consistent basis...We shall not turn back to the worse with huge set-backs in our present condition...We shall not regress...We shall move forward in recovery...
Consistent wins back to back are signs of how that recovery is developing/progressing and I fully expect to see that this week....
As for Seattle they are also a team turning the corner...They didn't have as huge a corner to turn as us so have responded quickly to treatment...New "HC" -n- motivation...But to refer to them as a dominate team is a bit unwarranted...They're on top of the 2nd worse division in football playing against the worst div in football...The NFCW -vs- AFCW....If they were in any other div it would be quite different...
Change these names...
STL - 13
SD - 17
SF - 27
AZ - 28
DEN - 32
CHI
to the North...
"GB"
Pits
Minn
Chi
Bal
Det
And what would they have...1-n-5 -w- Chi or 2-n-4 -w- Chi/Det...
They still have to play the NFCS and I suspect that gets allot tougher for them...
PantyRaider...We Win This One!!!/_
Nick Miller injures ankle
It was too early to tell if the injury is severe enough to keep him out of Sunday’s game against the Seahawks at the Coliseum.
“He was limping when he came off the field, so we’ll see,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said.
Damn good thing our gameplan rests more with the "TE"s -n- "RB"s in the pass attack...
PantyRaider..."WR"s Can't Stay Healthy!!!/_
Foul-Squaw Haiku
Disgusting stench fills the air
Unbearable anguish -n- pain
"Squawk'en Hawks" being plucked
Victorious warrior celebration
Gathering of the feast
"SeaBuzzard" makes a meal
Bend'em -n- Breed'em me hearties
Fat tribal women
Squaws shall gain no quarter
Relief come to wary souls
Reward thy strength
Give welcome to the bye!
PantyRaider....GO Raiders!!!!/_
Correction...
"Fowl-Squaw Haiku"
"Damn good thing our gameplan rests more with the "TE"s -n- "RB"s in the pass attack..."
So you continue to applaud the Raiders neglect at WR?
With Murphy and now Nick Miller injured, and DHB having some mysterious illness and being otherwise ineffective at best, perhaps we can now expect opposing defenses to take away what’s left of our game plan.
Brilliant!
YES BRILLIANT....Oh! Foolish One!!!...
Continue to neglect the "WR"s...WHAT!!!...
Don't you read anything and make sense of it...
10/27/2010 Signed WR Damola Adeniji to the practice squad
10/26/2010 LB Alex Joseph released
Now does that look like freakin continued "Neglect" to you!!!...
Meanwhile we promote 2 "WR"s to getting playing time that you were pimping as neglected while crying because their not on the freakin football field...So what happens...Miller turns up lame while preparing to face the "Squawk'enHawks" so you got's the pay-off for exactly what you were pimping....
More "WR"s -n- now our "KR" on the injury prone list....
PantyRaider...The Nerve Of That Boy!....Why The Noive!!!/_
Tick-Tick-Talk'en Haiku
Beat-down in the "MuleValley"
Tears not of joy
"CriersCircle" awakens
Tick-Tick-Trash-Talk'en! Haiku
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With Murphy and now Nick Miller injured, and DHB having some mysterious illness and being otherwise ineffective at best, perhaps we can now expect opposing defenses to take away what’s left of our game plan.
Brilliant!
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The season is toast again because of the neglect at WR?
Danmit... I was looking forward to watching the game tomorrow but for the 14th time this season ALL IS LOST!
Devastating!
JLH and Jacoby Ford need to step up and produce for the next 2 games before the bye week.
I certainly would hope that Chaz and Murphy are both able to hit the field for week 11 / Game 10.
If Huey is smart vs. Seattle, he will dial up numerous different types of screen plays to get McFadden and Bush in open space.
With Safety Milloy creeping up into the box to stop the run, a deep pass to Ford and a deep seam route to Miller should be available for some big plays.
My feeling on this upcoming game is that if we can run the ball with authority from the outset, we will put together our 1st back to back wins since Dec. 2008.
Let's GO Raiders!
"CJ"...
I think for Seattle public enemy #1 will be "D-Mac" and #2 will be Zack...If they consistently draw the double coverage away from the "WR"s we could have the opportunities you spoke about and big gains in the passing game...."DHB" could become the forgotten man this week and be wide open deep...If we can connect on a couple deep scores they will be forced to play deep and the "RB"s will be open underneath...
I would strike for the deep one on the initial play thus letting them know we're looking at it...Play action to "D-Mac" -w- pump-fake his way also should freeze the "DB" with coverage on "DHB" and get him the necessary separation...If we can establish the deep threat early Miller/Ford should be in the open on short to intermediate routs as their "D" gets thin at covering all our weapons...
Run-Run-Run -w- Dump-Offs to the "RB"s -n- "TE"s as our main menu but always looking for the deep ball...
PantyRaider....I Feel very Good About This One!!!/_
Gary...
Devastatingly Hilarious!!!...
Once again, the Raiders WR group underperforms the entire NFL, but anyone who points out this deficiency is crazy.
I know it's Halloween, but you'd think it was April Fools Day.
Okay! It is what is it.
It's Halloween, and it's a perfect day for the Raiders to play a home game. I wish I could be there!
The obvious question; which Raiders team from the last three weeks shows up today?
A) the team that gave up massive yards but clawed their way to an improbable victory with (truly) special teams and a late surge by the D;
B) the team that appeared totally confused and without any direction in a pitiful loss; or
C) the team that completely destroyed its opponent in every phase while rolling up franchise-record scoring?
Based on the multiple personalities demonstrated by the 2010 Raiders, I’m adding choice “D”
D) to be determined.
Personally, I’d be very happy with an ugly victory today and a chance to play next week for the division lead.
It’s Game Day!
GO RAIDERS!
I'm not sure that thirsting for excellence means all is lost.
We are mediocre at WR and QB, for example. Why should I be casual about it? Why should I ignore it? Are we content with the Chiefs leading the division? Of course not.
We need to get better, including at those two positions.
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nyraider said...
Once again, the Raiders WR group underperforms the entire NFL, but anyone who points out this deficiency is crazy.
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No, crazy is whining about WRs the week after a franchise record in scoring... quite obviously we don't always need stellar WRs to score points. Especially when ya have one of the best RBs, and one of the best TEs in the NFL.
But considering you already wrote the team off as dead after week FOUR... nothing really surprises me about your whining anymore.
"RT"...
We are all aware that this is not yet a complete team and more is needed to fulfill our dreams of a legitimate "SB" contender....BUT!!!...Look around...See what we are already accomplishing prior to having those missing pieces and enjoy it while you imagine what we might be when the "QB" -n- "WR" are here...
It just couldn't all be completed in the "08"-"09"-"10" draft -n- "FA" class....Some is still left for "11" yet to come....
But what up with the repeated over and over again constant tears because we ain't the #1 now...Now how totally pathetic is that and that's what we're mocking not the legitimate needs that should be addressed in the off season...
PantyRaider...Now Is The Time To Play Ball With The Hand That Was Dealt...Not To Cry A 1,000 Times Because It Ain't Full Yet!!!/_
There has been talk of the NFL having a team in Europe...That's Kool...I vote for "SadFranchise to make that move...We don't need any losers in the Bay Area!!!...
Ha! Ha!....Well at least they lead the "MuleHeads" by 3...
PantyRaider...Come'on -n- Slap That Donkey!!!/_
Where is a "Buffalo" stampede when we need it??...
Gary said: "No, crazy is whining about WRs the week after a franchise record in scoring..."
Gary, It's obvious to most here that you and PR are the only ones whining.
For some reason you feel the need to police this board like the keystone cops.
My concern for our WRs is genuine. First off, two of the WRs that contributed to that amazing game last week are now injured, and a third had some strange illness or anxiety that prevented him from playing (very strange)... leaving us dangerously thin at the position.
If that's not a concern for you, I really don't care.
You are too dumb to realize that McFadden and Miller might not be able to light it up every week, nor should the Raiders expect them to. Once again, I don't care what you think.
Gary said: "But considering you already wrote the team off as dead after week FOUR... nothing really surprises me about your whining anymore."
Not only have I NOT written this team off in 2010, I root for them every week like it's the f**k'n Super Bowl.
Gary, you are the one who complained that last week's game was "meaningless and boring"...
So STFU!
"Squaw" tries to ride "Buffalo" but get's bucked off...
"TO" on downs at the 20...Nice!!!...
Now give me a stampede Bitch!!!
WoW! Was that a "Squeaking Wheel" or what...
"Stop pointing at me while I'm crying"..."You's guys are crying because I'm crying so that makes you the criers so THERE!!!"...
Last week after such a great game he said it's hard to point fingers...Well not for a perpetual crier like him who can always find a way to vent his childish tears...
That's why I posted....
Tick-Tick-Tick....I know you will Talk -n- sure enough he just couldn't hold it all in...
Wa! Wa! Waaaa!....
The Tears Fall Down!!!...
Offensive balance and good production from all our skill position groups makes it more difficult for the defensive opponent to game plan for and handle.
If ever there was a time for DHB to SERIOUSLY step up his game, it is today.
I would love to see Huey script a few early short, high % pass plays for DHB to get him going and involved. It would be nice to give DHB an end around, run opportunity which is low risk, high reward potential.
Don't ask me why but I have a hunch we might see a run/pass option play involving McFadden today.
Buffalo gets weak -n- bends over for that fat "Squaw"...7 on the board....Got's no stampede left in'em...
Meanwhile out in London the 2 worst from the western divisions do their best jobs of impersonating American football teams...WoW!...Bet that'll really boost the European interest abroad....
Hope the afternoon games are better than this crap...
PantyRaider...Is It Game Time Yet!!!/_
Well the "Buffs" at least can kick which is more than can be said for "SadFranchise"...
Don't want both morning games to end in "V"s for the AFCW...
Time to go have my 1st beer at the Cantina here in Carlsbad...Check in after we win....
Go Raiders!!!...
Meanwhile "SF"-n-"Buf" continue to scck!!!
New gameday thread is up.
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