Go Reggie Go!
Well, Reggie McKenzie has wasted no time getting down to business.
With Peyton Manning joining the Broncos, our need for a tougher, smarter defense just intensified.
The good news is that since we were told that the Broncos defense, and not Tim Tebow, was winning Denver's games last year, we now have the DC behind that defense heading up our team.
Continue the discussion here...with a bit more civility, please.
With Peyton Manning joining the Broncos, our need for a tougher, smarter defense just intensified.
The good news is that since we were told that the Broncos defense, and not Tim Tebow, was winning Denver's games last year, we now have the DC behind that defense heading up our team.
Continue the discussion here...with a bit more civility, please.
posted by Raider Take at 12:42 PM
218 Comments:
McKenzie appears to be doing a tremendous job, despite the added pressures of having to "fill holes on an organizational level."
Raiders simply don't have the same access this year as other teams do to free agency and the draft.
McKenzie has already demonstrated his ability to work around these issues while showing us his talents with the salary cap, and he continues to smartly address personnel needs.
Here's what Corky just said about our new CB's:
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Comment From johnny
Do you see Bartel/Spencer as a better CB tandem than Routt/Johnson?
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Steve Corkran:
Routt better than both. Bartell and Spencer both better than Chris Johnson.
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Routt is better than both?
Yuck.
And Lito was better than CJ last season... just sayin.
He also said Barlett's snapped neck is a "huge question mark" and that the reason Chaz parted ways was both him and us needed a change.
(Both my questions which is always fun.)
Correction "Bartell" above.
O da horor...'Corkran' says Routt was better, it must be true?
Routt is a one trick pony, he will have a huge adjustment to playing in a regular defensive scheme, much like Nnamdi is having.
A broken vertebrae is not a "snapped neck"...if the Doc's have cleared him, he will be good to go...having Bartell and hopefully Porter at the corners is much better than Routt and Johnson AND a hell of a lot cheaper. Let's face it, if Mr.Davis was making these moves, you and your ilk would be saying " he's knocking it out of the park".
How bout we wait and see after a few PRACTISES? Before you guys claim VICTORY for all your posing that you are doing right now. You guys really get off on trying to yanks chains/humping legs?
As usual, the 'crew' is doing it's smack talking during the offseason when it's all just mental masterbation (what a surprise). Nothing will be settled until the games begin, until then it's all speculation, other than the fact that the Org is being run better.
JONES
That's not a fair comparison. Jones beat me to the puch, but the Raiders will be playing more zone and less M-T-M, and bringing more pressure on the QB. The days of needing elite CBs to blanket-cover WRs on every down are over.
Plus, who knows if either CB signed even makes the team. Reggie is working it.
We should be happy to be getting an opportunity to see new talent work in a different system.
Let's face it, if Mr.Davis was making these moves, you and your ilk would be saying " he's knocking it out of the park".
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No. Porter being signed is "knocking it out of the park."
Bartell without the snapped neck is close.
With a snapped neck, this is simply a cross your fingers and hope for the best. Cornerbacks cannot be "gun shy" I don't care what anyone sez.
Spencer is nothing more than depth.
And I don't care if its zone or M2M... we still have a lot of work to do in the secondary. I am not going to pretend otherwise regardless of who is doing the hiring now.
Guys, guys, s t o p... these are all professional football players, their talent is just a few degrees apart. What has been the proven factor is heart and four quarters of no stupidity. If you doubt that, rewind the Denver tapes. They were not better than us, they just more unified and better led. What's true in life is true on the gridiron. Statistics are ridiculous, and misleading as predictors. Go Oak!
Hey, can't worry about what other teams are doing.
Chefs have Routt, & Boss. I am not losing sleep.
Donks, have 36 yr. old Payton Manning.
Gary, would you say Manning has a "Snapped neck" ?
Meanwhile, Raiders are busy getting their own house in order.
Ridding team of bloated contracts, and lazy players.
No pain, no gain. The payoff will come soon enough.
Agree, Raider 00.
For all we know, (1) we might add another CB (2) Bartell or Spencer might get cut (3) 2nd year CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (DVD) might earn a starting role.
One of the more interesting things to follow will be how the DBs are deployed. Instead of relying on over-priced M2M CBs, we will be playing more zone with less $ spent on the position group.
Last season we had the 31st ranked pass D in TDs allowed (31 pass TDs).
The results are what will really count. There is PLENTY of room for improvement on the defensive side of the ball.
This transition is clearly a work in progress with a lot more work to do.
It isn't until we put together an 80 man roster, go through camps, pre-season, and final cuts that we will have a better feel for how the 2012 Raiders team is shaping up.
At this early stage of the offseason, I like how McKenzie is conducting business.
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Gary, would you say Manning has a "Snapped neck" ?
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Not sure how he injured it, but ok... SURE!
The difference is a QB is paid to AVOID all contact, and has the league officials help in doing so.
CB's are paid to do a lot of high impact tackling and hitting.
Why should this have to be explained?
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One of the more interesting things to follow will be how the DBs are deployed. Instead of relying on over-priced M2M CBs, we will be playing more zone with less $ spent on the position group.
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Two thoughts here:
1. Are you sure Allen is even much of a zone defense guy? I can find out pretty quickly from a Donc fan on Facebook.
2. Much of our back seven will be still playing next year, and were absolutely HORRIBLE at zone defense every time we tried it. Its one of the reasons we were last in the NFL in giving up TDs... not to mention the agonizing losses to Det and SD.
I might agree that maybe this was because Bresh was a complete moron... but I am not looking at this as much of a positive unless we bring a herd of different players in.
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CB's are paid to do a lot of high impact tackling and hitting.
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Not to mention they will be benched or cut pretty quickly if they are gun-shy or hesitant at all to do it.
Manning can be hesitant to take a hit all he wants... what difference does it make? maybe a few more tosses out of bounds is all.
I heard an interesting interview last night with the Chiefs GM that hired Montana... Peterson? He said the best part of it was that the o-line treated Montana as a china doll and no defensive player got to him. Nobody wanted to be responsible for allowing the sack that ended a legends career.
I assume the same will also happen with the Bronco's. Another reason this was such a great pick up for them...
Gary,
From what I've read and based on the Broncos D last year, our defensive coverage will be a mix of both zone and M2M.
The BIG difference will be that zone principles will be incorporated as a regular staple in practices, camp, pre-season all the way leading up to the regular season.
Zone was an after-thought previously so no one should be surprised that we got killed the few times we used it which was primarily in the red zone.
As far as our defensive personnel, we are looking at perhaps as many as 3 new starters in the back 7 and 4 total in the entire unit if you include Shaunnessey.
Houston
Kelly
Seymour
Shaunnessey
Curry
McClain
Goethel or FA or draftee
Bartell
Spencer
Huff
Branch
The other BIG difference should be our defense and defensive coaching being more modern, multiple, and aggressive.
We shall see.
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The other BIG difference should be our defense and defensive coaching being more modern, multiple, and aggressive.
We shall see.
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Agreed. It won't take much. The key actually might be Shawnasty.
Getting Shaunnessey back will be huge. He is equally as stout against the run as vs. being an adept pass rusher.
He has a good blend of size, speed, strength, and aggressiveness to make the entire front 4 better. If the opponent is double-teaming Seymour, Shaunnessey will be able to create havoc.
Using McClain in better situations to fit his skill set and make plays near the line of scrimmage should also make a positive impact.
Seeing Huff and Branch cut loose more often and in a less predictable manner bodes well for the D to be difference makers.
I guess I look at the situation optimistically as our D will finally be put in better situations to make game aggressive, game altering plays.
Onwards and upwards!
I want to hear what the players will be saying when traing camp is a few weeks old. It will be interesting to hear their comments on the changes made.
I will also want to see what is happening on Draft day. Mr.Davis ran the draft for decades and had a very rigid way of doing Draft day. Wonder if Reggie will be wheeling and dealing? Seems he isn't shy about making moves and doing whatever it takes to improve the team inside a designed plan.
I'm thinking that Reggie won't be shy on Draft day. After all these years of having the Org run in a certain fashion (never trade down, speed over football IQ) and now it will be so different, hasn't really sunk in yet. I think it is pretty cool.
JONES
"JackASS"...
It's called bringing in players who the coaches already know and if you look that's all that has been done to this point!!!
Funny how everyone else can recognize that FACT except some damn dumb "IAAF"er "New Optimist" who's trying to pimp this freakin "BS"!!!
"Reggie identified these 2 CBs"
Your totally Brain Dead!!!
So much for all that:
"With a shiny new GM players will want to play for the Raiders"..."BS"!!!
Wimbley takes paycut he wouldn't take in Oakland
He was scheduled to make $11 million from the Raiders and he just signed on with the Titans on a 5-year $35 million deal. That is an average of $7 million per season-a $4 million per season pay cut.
No Doubt he would have stayed and played for Al Davis -w- that pay cut knowing full well that he would have been taken care of!!!!
After the way Routt was treated that's now out the door!!!
PantyRaider...Just For The Record!!!!/_
"OTB"...
You will love this total "BS"...LoL!!!
Skip Bayless @RealSkipBayless
In order these teams would win more games w/ Tebow at QB: Jax, Clev, Minn, Mia, Oak, Buff, Ariz. Do not underestimate impact on fans, team.
Don't believe that CRAP!!!
PantyRaider...Lord NO!!!!/_
Raiders | Might have eyes on Manny Lawson
Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:19:36 -0700
The Oakland Raiders are interested in free-agent DL Manny Lawson (Bengals), according to a league source.
Now that would be a player who has not been with one of our new coaches...I think???
..."1. Are you sure Allen is even much of a zone defense guy? I can find out pretty quickly from a Donc fan on Facebook."....
Would that be OTB? Or his alternate personality, jethro? They are making 'Raidertake' their own personal Tebought fan club. 'Agent orange' is about as much of an agent as Maxwell Smart. His name is 'smart' but his mind is numb.
JONES
"OTB"...
Did you see this one???
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827bbb34/article/would-you-want-tim-tebow-on-your-roster?module=HP11_cp
Thanks but no thanks
As positive a presence as Tim Tebow is, our experts would take a pass rather than trade to get him
But this is just amazing to me and I don't freakin believe it!!!
"Could I play a game this Sunday? Yeah, I could," he said, when asked if he'd be able to get on the field immediately. "I don't know if I could play as well as I would like, but yeah, I could go out there."
Manning did allow that he isn't quite ready to play up to his own high standards.
"I have a lot of work to do in getting to where I want to be from a health standpoint....."This is going to take a ton of work."
He added that while it is too early for him to be 100 percent -- "It is March," he said; "I have a hard time reminding myself of that," -
Really appreciate Payton's honesty here but Elway your a freakin IDIOT!!!
For his part, Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway said the team's medical staff "feel(s) great" about the quarterback's health, according to the Denver Post. "I don't consider it much of a risk," he said.
What???...
Manning, who is attempting to come back after multiple neck surgeries forced him to miss the 2011 season,
"I don't consider it much of a risk," ????
Damn!!...Now I know Elway want's the hell away from Tibow but that's just insane!!!
For the record I hope Timmy leaves back to Florida and develops that Arm that he lacks and comes back to kick some "Donkey" ASS!!!
Meanwhile although I respect Payton the man he has now become the target in my sights....
"Bounty" anyone???
PantyRaider....LoL!!!/_
CJ... I don't disagree with a word of your last take.
Jones, I don't have a clue what you are talking about above, but I a have a longtime Donk fan acquaintance from Usenet that not only watches the frigging practice games, but watches them on tape 2 times. WHO DOES THAT?? Pre-season??? The guy lives and breathes Donk football and knows his stuff too.
Wimbley...no great loss, Routt...no great loss. In the long run, much money saved for better players at a cheaper cost = sounds like sound management to me!!!! Crying about mediocre players being "taken care of", Kindergarten is over...it's the real deal now, players in Oakland who want to play and have a team attitude.
No longer players that skip meetings, fly to Vegas, have ex-players 'chaperone' 'me' players...no more pets, no more scholarships, no more players playing to show the world that the GM 'out thought' everyone else. NOPE, those days are gone...keep crying 'Whino tears'.
JONES
Looks like the buzz is some of you will get your wish... Bush might be back.
I just hope he takes backup RB money and not a PENNY more.
He's looking for a starting job ANYWHERE, and isn't getting a sniff so far. I think most of the GM's saw what many of us saw... the guy simply isn't worth lead-back money.
"OTB"..
Don't you just hate on Elway now if your so damn in love with "TT"s...LoL!!!
7. No backup plan
John Elway was asked about the team's "Plan B" at quarterback if the team trades Tim Tebow.
"Plan B? I don't have a Plan B. We're going with Plan A," Elway said.
Bill Polian, Curtis Painter, and every Colts fan would like to point out that Plan B's matter.
8. Tebow will not be the Plan B
"It's our goal to get (Tebow) in the best situation possible," Elway said.
Translation: Tebow is as good as gone. Elway said Tebow is the Bronco he'd most like his daughter to marry, but the reality is that the team doesn't have much use for him as a quarterback.
PantyRaider....Now You Should Hate On That "Donkey" As Much As Me!!!!/_
Gary...
I for one will love to have Bush back if it happens..But you right...He ain't no "D-Mac" and that's for sure but we also need that depth and Bush has proven he can do it...
PantyRaider....Pull That Trigger Reggie!!!/_
Oh golly gee gary, you have a facebook friend that does all that...wow, you are really in the know?
And you have no idea what I mean when I say that OTB and Jethro are Bronco fans? Willful ignorance?
Isn't it something that the "crew" is gushing all over the Manning deal in Donkeyville? Sounds like they are either jealous or very proud that THEIR team has made the big signing.
You 3 better change your panties, they must be very orange and blue with moisture? It's sad that you have to troll many teams blog sites and 'hump legs' to get your kicks.
Looks like Elway is turning into a Jerry Jones type? With all that surgery and fake teeth? It will be great when that statue (Manning) is standing in the pocket and the Raiders design a 'ghost' blitz to knock his neck into a "snapped" position. I will stand and applaud and wait for the next victim. The QB will go down HARD, the days of knocking out QB's will be back in Oakland and the Black Hole is going to go NUTS! Take that, agent 'smart'.
JONES
"OTB"..
Elway's "HateTrip" is unreal!!!
Tebow photos already stripped from Broncos' facility
If you're a person still holding out hope you'll get more mileage out of that Tim Tebow Broncos jersey you bought in January, you might want to stop reading right now.
If you're a person still holding out hope you'll get more mileage out of that Tim Tebow Broncos jersey you bought in January, you might want to stop reading right now.
WoW!!...If there ain't any takers he will prolley just get cut!!!
PantyRaider....I Always Thought Elway Was A Prick!!!!/_
Whoops!!...Something faild to post??
That's because all the action photos of Tebow that once adorned the hallways at the Broncos' team facility were removed, according to The Associated Press.
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And you have no idea what I mean when I say that OTB and Jethro are Bronco fans? Willful ignorance?
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No, I don't know who OTB and Jethro are.
I am not 14 years old.
Sorry bubs... I tried to be nice, but I simply cannot handle your posts. Not my style. Nothing personal... although it seems to be for you. That seems more of a "you" problem.
I am going back to ignoring nearly everything you write again.
Have a nice night!
Bravo-Bravo-Bravo!!!
I already do the same Gary!!!
It's so much more peaceful that way!!!
No loss for me, gary, your child like view of football in general is hard to relate to. Your love of stats and inability to SEE the goings on, shows that your knowledge of the game is very limited. Throw in your drooling of have your questions answered by a mediot on tweeter...ya just a kid, wet behind the ears...ya ain't got it yet, kid. Keep trying, you might get there, maybe one day we can have an informed convo on both sides...have a nice day.
JONES
Jethro, you won't even try me, but you continue your copy and paste routine to hurang Jack and NY. You've given up because you've got NOTHING. Track records speak for themself, you = wrong 90%, that ain't to hard to beat.
Your slamming of the new regime and your gushing over Tebought and the Donkies make it very clear what you are = A FRAUD, you have been exposed and that can never be erased. Truth is out, Jethro, and you lose because of it, that's what ALWAYS happens to liars.
JONES
"OTB"...
Gotta love this one...LoL!!!
http://i41.tinypic.com/163zfa.jpg
To reiterate the question:
Question In Reality...
On Paper As It Now Stands...Who's Odds On Favorite To Take The AFCW???
Would Love To Say The Raiders But Too Damn Many Questions???
“KC” has several weapons on “O” but lacking at the key position…NO “QB” worth a damn…But they play tough and know how to play “D” and have been together under the same system for a few years…
That Damn “Donkey” lacks weapons on “O” and have to question that “OL” that couldn’t save a Tebow with legs?…."RB"s are so so…"WR"s are substandard…NO “TE”…But they may have some $$$$ to spend and pick to use..But is it enough?
“SD” has been in the same system forever and still have Rivers…On paper their roster looks improved…Turnerites has been an infliction and he was almost out the door so prolley starts on the “Hot Seat”??…Rivers showed some weaknesses but closed out strong…Inconsistency seems to have overtaken that team but if the season started today I would have to pick them to be favorites…
My Raiders are starting over with almost an entirely new coaching staff/system and perhaps philosophy so who knows what’s going to be OakTown?..The roster has been stripped and now a few gaping holes have been plugged but so much more needs to be done without the picks or $$$$ to do it…But this could be the surprise of our lifetimes?
Palmer and a very good core remains on the “O” and the “OL” may yet gel in their return to the “ZBS”…The “D” can’t possibly be any worse and should be improved…How much is a huge question????….
PantyRaider....Who Can Be Honest!!!/_
PR said: "Wimbley takes paycut he wouldn't take in Oakland. He was scheduled to make $11 million from the Raiders and he just signed on with the Titans on a 5-year $35 million deal. That is an average of $7 million per season-a $4 million per season pay cut. No Doubt he would have stayed and played for Al Davis -w- that pay cut knowing full well that he would have been taken care of!!!!"
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Taken care of? Really? I'd say Al Davis has already done that. Besides, taking care of players in the manner you suggest is exactly what the Raiders are smartly trying to get away from.
First off, Wimbley's new deal is slightly more in line with his worth, and proves Davis overpaid him by $4M per year.
Second, wimbley didn't actually take a pay cut. The Raiders still owe him a boat load of guaranteed money... like $6.5M. It was well-publicized that Wimbley would be smart to leave the Raiders and collect both salaries.
In case you did't read, Wimbley's new contract is front loaded... he stands to make over $17M this year thanks to the Raiders.
How was Al Davis supposed to trump that?
Over the course of one full season, Wimbley went from making a six figure salary to becoming one of the richest men in pro football... and PR thinks Al Davis would have taken care of him.
Clearly, Wimbley has taken care of himself!
Just dropping by to say HI. The news, until recently has been a yawner. But, with Manning now in the AFC West things should get interesting.
As Manning is a Tennessee grad I look for The Geldings to go back to the old full, god awful, orange jerseys from the Orange Crush days.
Most pundits will now anoint Denver as the winner next season. All I can say is with Palmer and Manning now in the West, quarterback play just got significantly better.
H
Looks like Dennis Allen will not be touched by 'Bouty gate'...where is that guy who was "crying" wolf?
JONES
Another mediocre CB signed... looks to me like we are for sure going the "CB by platoon" theory similar to NE.
I see a lot more zone next season... I hope these young coaches on D are great teachers!!
Sean Peyton gone for a year..suspended. Billacheat got how much for spying how many times? There seems to be 'pets' in the NFL circle, just more proof. If you don't kiss the leagues ass or your owner isn't a corporate slut...the NFL F*$#@ you.
JONES
Signing of Lee is nothing more than depth and SP teams...once again, gary doesn't know what he is looking at. Have to name you Mr.Green...
JONES
One year, wow! So many teams do or think the same thing; they just weren't dumb enough to verbalize and make sport of it.
You're right, Jones, the Pats got a slap on the wrist by comparison.
How ridiculous.
Gary,
I won't be surprised if we bring in more, relatively anonymous players.
If you think about it, this is a big part of what Reggie has been hired to do which is to identify hidden gems at low cost.
The "best" 80 man roster will uncover some real football players who might have been on another team's bench, been undrafted, bounced on a few waiver wires etc.
Sure we all prefer the proven, big name players but with our budget, we are not in the position to go after tier 1 free agents.
It will be a process of taking the best possible 80 men and whittling it down by competition to 53 who (a) fit our systems (b) give us the best chance to win.
The recent signing, CB Pat Lee, was in Green Bay the past 3 years. I'm sure none of us have heard of the guy before. However, I think it is very safe to say that Reggie knows the guy very well and sees potential worth, depth, competition, special teams, development, etc.
So now Reggie finally brings in one of his own instead of guys his coaches want...
Chock up one for Reggie!!!
Now it will be interesting to see who gets the reps...The guys the coaches wanted or the guys Reggie wanted???
Stay tuned for "The Partnership-Real or Imaginary??"""
PantyRaider...10 Steps Back -n- 4 Steps Forward!!!!/_
PR,
You are a complete idiot, fool, and imbecile.
All the players signed are ultimately Reggie's responsibility.
It doesn't matter if members of the coaching staff once worked with newly signed players previously.
What does matter is that the team works in unison to find the best possible players.
In the NFL, like the business world, past relationships, contacts, referrals, and recommendations is how business is conducted. Are you that clueless?
If Dennis Allen says "Hey Reggie, take a look at Player X. He is a player that I respect and would fit into our team's needs" does it really matter? Of course not. What matters is the TEAM's success.
One of the great things about Al Davis was his knowledge, contacts, and relationships throughout the NFL. He used this network of contacts with a watchful eye towards improving the team's talent. Some of these contacts were Raider coaches, former Raider coaches, players, former players, scouts, other team's GMs, etc.
I find it amusing and quite frankly sad that you want to discredit Reggie McKenzie, OUR new GM, for basically doing his job. If Reggie wasn't taking recommendations from his circle of contacts, subordinates, and network of NFL folks, then I would be worried.
Get a clue PR. You are a complete football novice and a fraud.
(by truthteller33)....LoL!!!
Still trying but just can't worm yourself in!!!
He's leaving on a jet plane...Don't know when he'll be back again...Oh!..He hate to go!!!
To the cold NE instead of the warm SE...
Tebow became a Jet!!!!
Oh!! "StupidJack" You really put you foot in it this time!!!
"Brisiel is a proven OG"
"By all accounts, Briesel and Bartell were excellent signings."
Was this a "Big Name Signing"????
LoL!!!
Well none the less apparently you missed this:
Blogger Calico Jack said...
Negative Nancy,
All you need to do is name 2 Big Name free agent signings that were legit starters. That isn't so hard
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Here it is again B itch so read -n- weep!!!
"FA" Starters:
Kevin Boss**** 11 Starts
NFL Draft: 2007 / Round: 5 / Pick: 153
Super Bowl XLII champion
Receptions 147
Receiving yards 1,968
Receiving TDs 21
Lito Sheppard**** 7 Starts
08/26/2011 Signed CB Lito Sheppard
NFL Draft: 2002 / Round: 1 / Pick: 26
2× Pro Bowl (2004, 2006)
Tackles 345
Passes defended 70
Interceptions 19
INT return yards 460
INT return TDs 3
"Trade" Starters:
Aaron Curry**** 11 Starts
NFL Draft: 2009 / Round: 1 / Pick: 4
Tackles 202
Sacks 5.5
Forced fumbles 4
Touchdowns 1
Carson Palmer**** 9 Starts -n specifically named in my challenge!!!
Heisman Trophy (2002)
NFL Draft: 2003 / Round: 1 / Pick: 1
2× Pro Bowl (2005, 2006)
Pro Bowl MVP (2006)
NFL Alumni Ouarterback of the Year (2005)
FedEx Air Player of the Year (2005)
AFC Player of the Year (2005)
TD-INT 167-116
Passing yards 25,447
QB Rating 86.3
Supplemental Draft Pick:
Terrelle Pryor**** -n- Specifically named in my challenge!!!
sophomore year Pryor led the Buckeyes to another Big Ten Championship.
2010 Rose Bowl MVP trophy after leading Ohio State to a 26-17 victory over Oregon.
2007 Hall Trophy (U.S. Army Player of the Year)[25]
2007 PARADE National Player of the Year and All-American[26]
2008 Pete Dawkins Trophy (U.S. Army All-American Bowl MVP)
2008 U.S. Army All-American MVP
2008 Big Ten Freshman of the Year (coaches)[27]
2008 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (media)[27]
2009 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Sportsmanship Award
2009 Big Ten Preseason Player of the Year
2009 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (media)
2010 Rose Bowl MVP
2010 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention (coaches and media)
2010 Big Ten MVP runner-up
2011 Miller-Digby Award
Supplemental Draft: 2011 / Round: 3
Now it's very damn obvious that your FUCKED but you already knew that!!!!
And this NEVER specified "STARTERS"!!!
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Blogger PantyRaider said...
"CJ"...
Doubt your man enough to "Put Up Or Shut Up" but I will wager that Mr Davis makes a splash in "FA" this season....
Clarification:
At least one big name player if not 2....
Projected Possibilities:
"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor
PantyRaider...Now Put Up Or Shut The Fuck Up!!!/_
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Blogger Calico Jack said...
PR - I'm in. I will stop visiting this site for 1 complete year
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Blogger Calico Jack said...
PR,
I stand 1000000% behind all of my words
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So now it's down to your own stupid damn silly games!!!
Ready for this: The Factual Reality!!!
07/30/2011 Signed free agent QB Trent Edwards
NFL Draft: 2007 / Round: 3 / Pick: 92
Stanford Cardinal Team MVP (2005)
NFL All-Rookie Team (2007)
San Jose Mercury News South Bay Sports POY (2007)
TD-INT 26-30
Passing yards 6,019
QB Rating 75.4
08/02/2011 Signed offensive linemen Justin Smiley
NFL Draft: 2004 / Round: 2 / Pick: 46
Games played 88
Games started 78
11/01/2011 Signed WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
NFL Draft: 2001 / Round: 7 / Pick: 204
1× Pro Bowl selection (2007)
1× All-Pro selection (2007)
NFL reception leader in 2007 (tied) with Patriots WR Wes Welker with (112).
Bengals franchise records
Most punt return yards in a game (126)
Most receptions in a season (112) in 2007.
Receptions 627
Receiving Yards 7,237
Receiving TDs 44
That just beat the hell out of the "1 if not 2 Big Name Players" that was mentioned in that challenge/wager which you clearly lost!!!...These players were SIGNED and I don't give a rats ass what happened after that...It was all about the "Acquisitions" NOT about being starters!!!
PantyRaider...Now Shove That Up Sideways!!!!/_
"JackASS"...
It's called bringing in players who the coaches already know and Reggie already knows....If you look that's all that has been done to this point!!!
Funny how everyone else can recognize that FACT except some damn dumb "IAAF"er "New Optimist" who's trying to pimp this freakin ignorant "BS"!!!
"""Reggie identified these 2 CBs"""
Your totally Brain Dead!!!
When Reggie brings in one he hasn't already had a relationship with or his coaches haven't already had a relationship with I will let you know...Until than "Just Keep Hiding And Lying Baby!!!
PantyRaider....I Have Identified "SlapJack" As A Fraud!!!!/_
Raiders | Khalif Barnes financials
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:03:46 -0700
Updating a previous report, the deal for Oakland Raiders OT Khalif Barnes is for one-year, $2 million, according to a league source.
Raiders | Have interest in Dave Tollefson
Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:39:57 -0700
The Oakland Raiders have expressed interest in free-agent DE Dave Tollefson (Giants).
The Toll:
3 "CB"s
3 "OL"
10 Steps Back -n- 6 Steps Forward!!!
"BountyGate" NOT Over Yet!!!
"We are all accountable and responsible for player health and safety and the integrity of the game," Commissioner Goodell said. "We will not tolerate conduct or a culture that undermines those priorities. No one is above the game or the rules that govern it. Respect for the game and the people who participate in it will not be compromised."
"A combination of elements made this matter particularly unusual and egregious," Commissioner Goodell continued. "When there is targeting of players for injury and cash rewards over a three-year period, the involvement of the coaching staff, and three years of denials and willful disrespect of the rules, a strong and lasting message must be sent that such conduct is totally unacceptable and has no place in the game."
Discipline for individual players involved in the Saints' prohibited program continues to be under review with the NFL Players Association and will be addressed by Commissioner Goodell at a later date.
For the record the NFLPA has already specified that if one player is to receive a penalty than every coach who has been involved also must serve a penalty and demands further investigation into those Assistant Coaches...
The "NO" Assistant Coaches present and past now await any further development!!!
PantyRaider....The Law Is NOT Swift!!!/_
Negative Nancy's post 8:55pm
You are nothing BUT a VILLAGE IDIOT!!!
SCALR8R
PR,
"It's called bringing in players who the coaches already know and Reggie already knows....If you look that's all that has been done to this point!!!"
And what is your point?
By your sheer volume of ignorant posts you've proven yourself to be a fraud and a complete loser.
Does any real Raider fan give a shit if a player who is signed worked with a member of our coaching staff previously? No.
What any real Raider fan cares about is a FUNCTIONAL, RESULTS ORIENTED organization that is doing everything in it's power to improve the product on the field.
You are so obsessed with Al Davis and discrediting the new era of McKenzie and Allen that you've shown your true colors.
Everyone can see you are not a Raider fan. It is so sad and pathetic that you've lost sight of the reason that all of us visit Raider Take ... to share our thoughts, hopes, and discuss Raider football.
Instead you are a lost soul who not only has ZERO clue about football, but is nothing more than an internet troll.
Face it PR, you are not a Raider fan but an Al Davis fan. You don't want the Raiders to succeed. Your only real goal in life is to troll this site, create confrontation, and try to puff up your shallow existence.
Enjoy the season!
Step Up To The "Shadow" Bitch!!!
Oh!!...That's Right!!!
You can't step up to anything in your shallow "White Noise" LIES!!!
Dumb "JackASS"!!!...
It's about YOU NOT the Raiders or Reggie that I'm spanking your ass off about!!!...Your own negative football "IQ" which is even bigger that your peewee jock size...OBVIOUSLY!!!...
NO gonad at all!!!
Purely Negative Existence!!!
And you dare to post lies like this:
""I stand 1000000% behind all of my words""
FARCE!!!
"""All you need to do is name 2 Big Name free agent signings that were legit starters."""
Did that!!!....
Named 5 Big Name "FA"s that were signed and that's all that was needed!!!..But also 2 Big Name Players that started after trades and one Big Name Draft pick that was called by name!!!
You got's NOTHING "JackBitch"!!!
Time to show some gonad and Man the fuck up!!!
But we all know you can't so your going to be hounded by the "Board of Collections" forever...
I will destroy your "Credibility" which you already have NONE!!!
More to follow because the real deal hasn't even begun yet!!!
Stay tuned for a CyberSpace site near you!!!
"OTB" Where are you???
Gotta love this:
http://static.sportsuntapped.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Be-careful-what-you-wish-for....jpg
Looks like "JackSmack" absorbing punishment!!!
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z325/jcbouche/PaytGood.gif
BountyGate: "NO"
The player suspensions and/or fines have yet to be handed down and it may be the reason none of their free agents have been signed by interested teams. The Raiders have shown interest in CB Tracy Porter and could also show interest in NT Aubrayo Franklin.
As already reported:
The Players Association has said that if a single player is to be penalized than every assistant coach who worked under Williams also needs to be scrutinized and receive equal punishment…
This may be the reason that the players have yet to be punished???…The union demands an in depth investigation into each assistant coach which would take more time to resolve and said they want their own investigators involved…
Perhaps not out of the woods yet???
Panty, sorry pal, no time to cut n paste your url's buddy. Jones, do you have anything better to do than to post smack on posters? I'm excited that we will be putting an end to Denver's whoo-ya now that their motivator is gone. I suspect QB issues in NYC so there's another AFC Team we can punk pretty quick. Like I said before, Teebs is no starter, but is a serious force to reckon with, his whole career. A greater force to reckon with is our team, who, with much relief, is avoiding drama, focusing on football operations, and getting ready to say... "weeeere baaaack!"
"PantyRaider...10 Steps Back -n- 4 Steps Forward!!!!/_"
10 steps back from what? The bottom?
"OTB"...
I'm officially off your boy now that he's no longer a hated "Donkey" target...But that don't make me a "Tebowite" either....Now that's the gossiple truth!!!...LoL!!!
Just having a little fun poking at ya is all...
I hope he finds an arm to come back and do a "Smack Down" on Elway and his "MulkeHead Clan"...That would be just too funny!!!
PantyRaider...Funny Pics Though!!!/_
"ZBS"....
http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/3/2766488/the-zone-blocking-scheme-an-overview
#Redskins have expressed interest in Texans OG Mike Brisiel, who started 13 games last season.
Brisiel was allowed to hit the open market by the Texans, who were struggling staying under the cap. Brisiel is 29 years-old who could have a good three to five years left in the tank. He has a familiarity with the zone-blocking scheme and worked under Kyle Shanahan when he was the offensive coordinator. However, he has had some injury troubles in the past, only able to start 13 games last year.
We couldn't afford $3.5 Mil/Season???
Vittorio Tafur @VittorioTafur
My crystal ball was right @ProFootballTalk: Michael Bush agrees to terms with the Bears, per league source. Four years, $14 million.
OTB..can you post about anything other than Tebought and your beloved 'orange and blue'?
JONES
..."We couldn't afford $3.5 Mil/Season???"....
If Mr.Davis was still alive, Bush would have been a top 5 paid RB...obviously Bush didn't want to be in Oakland...see ya, he can and will be replaced for LESS.
JONES
Lost About 10 By My primitive Count But Have Added 7...10 Steps Back -n- 7 Steps Forward!!!
1 “S”
3 "CB"s
3 “OL”
The question that remains is are these additions and the ones to follow worth as much as the losses or are they just “Camp Tackling Dummies”???
SS Tyvon Branch was a must have keeper….
OG Mike Brisiel is progress if he can remain healthy which hasn’t happened the past 3 seasons…
CB Ron Bartell is also of that same issue coming of a season ending neck injury…
G Cooper Carlisle long in the tooth but cheap and has been healthy and consistent…
RT Khalif Barnes doesn’t have much competition at the moment as he returns…
CB Shawntae Spencer has stater experience but may not make the final roster unless he beats out the kids…
CB Pat Lee hasn’t allot of prospect to make the final cut…
Do they add up yet to these probable 16 losses????
RB Bush
OL Wimbeley
CB Routt
C Satele
CB Johnson
DT Henderson
TE Boss
S Eugene
DE Scott
DE Moss
WR Chaz
LT Heyer
RB Rock
FS Giordano
LB Groves
CB Lito Sheppard
PantyRaider...Just A very Simple Dose Of Reality!!!/_
Nice restraint by the new management by letting Bush walk. A suitable replacement can be found in the draft in the 5th round.
And maybe he can even remember to pick up his blitz assignment too!
I will miss his hands on screen passes though... although I won't miss what he did AFTER he caught the ball... which was usually finding the biggest guy and run straight into him...
Panty
In the "bet" You mention Carson Palmer, Aaron Curry and T.J but weren't they were aquired post AL .
Though I'm thankful to have both CP and AC on the team.
Topher
Gary
if mcfadden can stay health we wont miss his hands also it will mean more touches for Reece and his hands are pretty good.
Topher
Topher...
"I will wager that Mr Davis makes a splash in "FA" this season...."
Is Marc now Mr Davis???
It's one thing to debate something well in advance of making an agreement but quite different when the debating is done well after the fact when the bastard already lost...
And for the record the other party readily conceded the "V" to me without much crying over it like a man..."NYR" even if we don't see eye to eye or get along...
Palmer was named as a targeted possibility as was Pryor as a "Sup Draft Pick" as per this:
Projected Possibilities:
"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor
There can be very little doubt that I was right on and they were wrong...Period to which "NYR" has already conceded!!!
PantyRaider...The Prosecution Rests It's Case!!!!/_
God I need to proof read.
Topher
I said I would reserve judgement on Reggie until after I have seen him in action. Although it has barely been a few months, he is exceeding my expectations.
He recognizes bargains and is doing the painful work of ridding our team of all of these insane contracts.
I am feeling extremely minty about the future!
Roy
Jones, shut your pie hole unless you're called on. Your seniority means nothing. Panty, I coulda guessed the great pokings but my typing is as bad as Tebow's first three quarters of any game, so copying and pasting might cause me to toss my computer out the porthole... at Jonesy! Sheesh Jones lay off the meds. This is an NFL Bracket, foo! (but thanks for the humor). OK, you may speaketh.
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...sense-o'-humor check there Jonesie boy... you dunno me, I dunno you, but why you keep pullin' the dawgs chains is beyond me! Talk FOOTBALL! (Panty, will you get this guy in line for me please, he thinks we're the same guy or sumpn' dude)... Great fun, nonetheless.
15 Bomar QB 6-2 225 1 yr exp
3 Palmer QB 6-5 235 10 yr exp
6 Pryor QB 6-6 230 2
Bomar and Pryor are just able to buy beer. Old Man Palmer "might" be Gannon-ish... I hope!
So you REALLY think TEBOW wouldn't compliment THIS? If not, you have raider patches over both eyes, and a mild case a' scurvy to boot!
"OTB"...
That Demon who refers to itself as "JONES" is beyond repair and best just ignored Baby!!...Not Ever Read!!!
If that Demonic Influence gets in your noggin it just disrupts your joy so why even let it in...I get plenty just from the replies folks make to that ignorant piece of weak ass crap that only has one agenda...To disrupt the Nation's joy which is why it continues to try and post on other Raider boards as well but always meets with adversity being scolded and the boot!!!!!!
So diminished is it's power of late!!!...Has NO hold on me!!!
As for the Great Tebow the only way we see him in OakTown is wearing that "Gang Green" and he be the enemy!!!...But I prolley won't hate on the boy anymore but I also wouldn't want him on our team...
Besides my boy Pryor has legs that leave that slow-mo in the dust and an arm with hands that "TimBo" will never know!!!
LoL!!!...But never stop pimping your Bitch...I Don't!!
PantyRaider...Yours Has Been Sold For A 4th!!!/_
Our Shiny New "GM" Speaks:
Now the Great Reggie!!!
McKenzie said the Raiders' highest priority right now is finding an outside linebacker. Saying "I need to find a starting outside linebacker. Other than that we could field a team and compete right now." While that would suggest a signing in free agency, he didn't rule out being able to find a starter either in the draft or as an undrafted free agent.
He also said the lower priorities are finding a backup quarterback and backup running back. I would expect the backup quarterback position to be filled late in free agency and the running back position to be addressed in the draft and afterward.
Mckenzie went on to say that the Raiders would have liked to re-sign both Kamerion Wimbley as well as Michael Bush but that he knew there would be no chance to keep either, primarily for salary reasons. He said the team currently has about $4 million left under the cap but could easily make more room if necessary by restructuring some contracts or by signing Tyvon Branch to a long term deal.
PantyRaider....The Fog Thins -n- We Have A Plan!!!!/_
OTB, your idea of wit is very lame. Is there any meaning or value to what you do? Trolling sites, gushing over Tebought, trying to get a reaction? That may be cool in your book and it may have been in mine too...when I was 13 years old.
Used to skip school, call a guy's house who I didn't like in my class, would talk to his mom and say I was the store detective from the local Dept Store. Would tell his mom that we just caught him shoplifting and that she had to come and spring him. It's along the same lines as what you do when trolling like you do.
If you are older than 13 or 14, then what you do trolling around like you do, is pretty sad...I forgive you.
JONES
Panty, you're right. Dude's gonna be talking to everyone else from this point forward. Civility continues, from OakTown!
Gary
if mcfadden can stay health we wont miss his hands also it will mean more touches for Reece and his hands are pretty good.
Topher
>>>>
I like the way you think! I don't know why Hue didn't use Reese more last year, especially after McF got injured.
I would very much rather had the ball in the hands of Reese than Bush last year.
shrug
I said "Bush up the gut for a yard" before the snap more times than I want to think about...
Agree about Reece. I especially ike his ability to create mismatches in the passing game. A tough cover for the D.
We need T. Jones to soak up some of McFadden's carries to keep him healthy for a full season.
Overall, I really like our offensive unit's potential to be dynamic and diversified.
Reggie interview with J-Mac is cool. He said he has less than $4M in cap space right now (hoping to sign Branch to a L-T deal and free up more $), and he sounded like it will be no problem to sign a plug'n play RB to backup McF. Wiz at center and Carlisle at LG. He also plans to sign a vet QB.
No surprises; just the continuation of a well-designed plan to work within the framework of what he's been given.
IMO, it will be several seasons before McKenzie is truly working entirely within his own system.
For now, he appears to be doing a great job with what he has to work with.
"OTB"...
Nothing there worth wasting any energy on Bro...You already know your better than "THAT" and so do I...It's MT and got's nothing to live for!!!
Reggie already got's it covered:
01/09/2012 Signed RB Rashawn Jackson to a Reserve/Future contract
Undrafted in 2010
Height: 6 ft 1 in Weight: 239 lb
2 Game Played -w- 1 Start...
That's potentially one with others to follow....
Reggie said another "QB" was NOT a priority and also said that he likes the acquisition of Pryor for a 3rd in the Sup-Draft...
Translation:
Our #2 is prolley already on the roster so all we need is depth/ insurance......
Reggie also said he could put a team on the field tomorrow but he didn't lie and say it would be a winning/championship team...He still has allot of work to do before were even able to speak about that level of play...As do the coaches as well...
PantyRaider....Potentially As Good As We Had!!!!/_
Reggie signs an undrafted reserve RB and suddenly...
"Reggie already got's it covered"
and...
"Potentially As Good As We Had!!!!/_"
That's in stark contrast to the McKenzie-bashing you've been doing since Reggie was hired... and your prediction Allen would be more or less escorted out in handcuffs as part of bounty-gate.
All because we signed a RB that's barely seen the laces on an official NFL ball.
So all the belligerence and mental masturbation was for nothing.
Fuck Off Ass Hole!!!
The Total Ignorance is beyond reason:
Get out your crayons so I can draw you another picture!!!...Again!!!
01/09/2012 Signed RB Rashawn Jackson to a Reserve/Future contract
01/09/2012....Does that look like
"Reggie signs an undrafted reserve RB and suddenly..."
"Reggie already got's it covered"
NO Dumb Dumb...He already got's it covered as in long before Bush was lost as he covered that base 1st...Where the hell have you been spending your nights???
"Potentially As Good As We Had!!!!/_"
Did you happen to see this:
Lost About 10 By My primitive Count But Have Added 7...10 Steps Back -n- 7 Steps Forward!!!
1 “S”
3 "CB"s
3 “OL”
The question that remains is are these additions and the ones to follow worth as much as the losses or are they just “Camp Tackling Dummies”???
SS Tyvon Branch was a must have keeper….
OG Mike Brisiel is progress if he can remain healthy which hasn’t happened the past 3 seasons…
CB Ron Bartell is also of that same issue coming of a season ending neck injury…
G Cooper Carlisle long in the tooth but cheap and has been healthy and consistent…
RT Khalif Barnes doesn’t have much competition at the moment as he returns…
CB Shawntae Spencer has stater experience but may not make the final roster unless he beats out the kids…
CB Pat Lee hasn’t allot of prospect to make the final cut…
Do they add up yet to these probable 16 losses????
RB Bush
OL Wimbeley
CB Routt
C Satele
CB Johnson
DT Henderson
TE Boss
S Eugene
DE Scott
DE Moss
WR Chaz
LT Heyer
RB Rock
FS Giordano
LB Groves
CB Lito Sheppard
PantyRaider...Just A very Simple Dose Of Reality!!!/_
The "Potential" is there to be as good as last season with the additional adjustments like this:
"McKenzie said the Raiders' highest priority right now is finding an outside linebacker. Saying "I need to find a starting outside linebacker."
Reggie than adds:
"Other than that we could field a team and compete right now."
Translation:
That "OLB" is a hole NOT yet filled but other than that we could field a complete team...Any depth Reggie....NO!!!...Is it a championship team Reggie??....NO!!!...He never said that now did he...
SO: In theory after Reggie finishes this task we could "Potentially" be as good as last season....NOT improved...NOT a "Championship Team"!!!...Fuckin 8-n-8!!!
And by the way:
"Mckenzie went on to say that the Raiders would have liked to re-sign both Kamerion Wimbley as well as Michael Bush"
Those were 2 costly losses regardless of how much you try to play it down and to date we have NOT added a single body that's either equal to nor better than what we have lost!!!
Do the 3 new "CB"s even measure up to equal to the loss of:
Routt/"CJ"/Sheppard...
Than add in the "S"s for a full view of our Defensive Backfield:
Eugene/Giordano
And what "OLB" acquisition is going to offset the loss of:
Wimbeley/Groves
None of which even addresses the loss of:
Henderson/Moss/Scott on the "DL"
Boss @ "TE"
Chaz @ "WR"
Satele/Heher @ "C"/"T"
Rock @ "ST"s
So now put your "Crystal Balls" back under your tongue and come up with a solution to all that has been lost!!!
PantyRaider....As If Your Had That In You!!!/_
LoL!!..
Aren't you tired of humiliating yourself yet???
LOL, ...Good job NYR, looks like Jethro is jumping so many fences that he can't remember which is which. All it can do is swear and call names = FRAUD. It probably trolls the Donkey sites in love with Manning signing there...too bad for him that Manning won't last that long. RAIDERS are going to knock out the 'Statue' early and jethro will cry there was a 'bouty' on him. Freakin donkey fans....the most stupid fans in the league, right jethro?
JONES
..."SO: In theory after Reggie finishes this task we could "Potentially" be as good as last season....NOT improved...NOT a "Championship Team"!!!...Fuckin 8-n-8!!!"...
In the words of Sammy Hagar...."it's all just mental masterbation..."
What happened to "it's to soon to make such speculations"? So now it's not too soon? And not even one practise has occurred? THE KING OF FLIP FLOP = your unfavorite donkey fan....JETHRO.....BOOOOOOOOOOO, YOU SUCK, you fence jumping FRAUD.
JONES
n addition to Dreessen, the Broncos recently have landed free-agent wideout Andre Caldwell and cornerback Tracy Porter since Manning signed his five-year deal to play in Denver.
"TE" Dreessen
"CB" Tracy Porter
"WR" Andre Caldwell
Damn The AFCW is getting tougher by the day!!!
But hey!!!...We have signed how many big name "FA"s or made trades for WHO???
Oh!!...That's Right!!...We haven't!!!
PantyRaider...Anyone Keeping Score!!!!/_
LoL!!!
Well maybe that damn "Donkey" needs all the bodies it can get in view of this:
"According to televangelist Pat Robertson, the Broncos have ruffled the feathers of the football gods."
Shifting seamlessly into NFL analyst mode on his show, "The 700 Club," Robertson recently warned viewers that by signing Peyton Manning and shipping Tim Tebow to the Jets, the Broncos are gambling with fate.
LoL!!!...
Once again, jethro is on top of all the donkey news...what a surprise....go play with your donkey friends, fraud boy.
JONES
"The Raiders have lost 10 free agents this period-more than any other team in the NFL."
Yup!!...That's my count too!!!..
The Raiders have had a total of 31 free agents this offseason. Only ten of those players are unrestricted and are still free agents.
The team has signed four of their own free agents- OT Khalif Barnes, S Tyvon Branch (franchise tag), G Cooper Carlisle, and DL Carl Ihenacho.
They also placed restricted free agent tenders on four others-- DL Desmond Bryant, NT Travis Ivey, CB/KR Bryan McCann, and FB Marcel Reece.
Here is the overall list of free agents signed away from the Raiders so far:
QB Jason Campbell Chicago Bears
RB Michael Bush Chicago Bears
C Samson Satele Indianapolis Colts
DL Trevor Scott New England Patriots
WR Chaz Schilens New York Jets
RB Rock Cartwright San Francisco 49ers
Cuts:
LB Kamerion Wimbley Tennessee Titans
CB Stanford Routt Kansas City Chiefs
TE Kevin Boss Kansas City Chiefs
QB Trent Edwards Philadelphia Eagles
Here are the remaining Raiders free agents still unsigned:
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh UFA
OT Stephon Heyer UFA
DL Jarvis Moss UFA
LB Darryl Blackstock UFA
LB Ricky Brown UFA
LB Quentin Groves UFA
CB Lito Sheppard UFA
SS Jerome Boyd ERFA (not tendered)
FS Matt Giordano UFA
QB Kyle Boller UFA
CB Chris Johnson UFA (Cut)
FS Hiram Eugene UFA (Cut, failed physical)
DL John Henderson UFA (Cut, failed physical)
As far as incoming free agents, the Raiders have signed five CB Brandon Underwood, CB Pat Lee, CB Shawntae Spencer, CB Ron Bartell, CB...err... I mean OG Mike Brisiel.
Yup!!!...That's what I have been posting all along!!!
PantyRaider...But It Falls Upon Death Ears!!!!/_
Wow, Jethro can count (when someone else counts for it). And why is it so many players have left and the Raiders are barely under the cap? Oh that's right, it is because of the last 'capologist' spent like a teenage girl who just got a credit card from her rich daddy.
But good ole donkey fan pretends that the cap situation in Oakland was just the same as all the other teams....hey jethro, go f yourself, cause no one else will.
JONES
As Reggie states in his interview, he is right now within $4M of the salary cap. So all the free agents he let go were out of pure necessity due to the "wacked contracts" he inherited. Does that make him a failure? No. He's doing his job as well as anybody could expect, probably better.
PR, you have trouble separating fantasy and reality. Your notion the Raiders have taken 10 steps backwards is a complete and utter joke. There were never 10 steps to take. The Raiders have been fluttering in a state of dysfunction for 10+ years. Many holes to fill... and Reggie is getting it done.
Go Reggie, Go!
Keep smokin that shit and lying to yourself...
It's your defining moment!!!
Define jethro...
He backed a losing org for 9 years
He ridicules the 'new' org when it was a total mess that had to be restructured
He crows about other AFC west teams like they are the 'tops'.
He blames the new org for failures of the past
He is a fake Raider fan that trolls multiple sites to incite anger.
He is a fraud....case closed.
JONES
"It's your defining moment!!!"
No. I would say it's yours. You have bashed Reggie McKenzie, Dennis Allen and the Raiders almost relentlessly the last few weeks.
My takes are consistent and measured by comparison.
Conversely, I applaud McKenzie for all he's done to help the Raiders get through this transition. It may seem small to you, but it's really quite remarkable given, again, what he had to work with.
The list of FAs that have left the Raiders and others signed by McKenzie has made perfect and absolute sense, save perhaps letting Schilens walk for so little money.
Ha! Ha! Ha!...LoL!!!
"My takes are consistent and measured by comparison."
Ya!!...You have hated the Raiders for several season pimping everything negative towards my "Silver-n-Black" that you could and now hold on trying to embrace some fantasy of a "New Raider Order" as far removed from the historical records as possible...
So Ya!!...That's most certainly very damn "Consistent" with your perpetual "HateTrip"!!!
You have hated upon the slogans "Greatness of the Raiders"/"Pride-n-Poise"/"Commitment To Excellence" for some time now and LIED in a slanderous manner about everything Al Davis had accomplished and now have the audacity to ignore that the "Son-o-Al" has given up our 1st rd pick as well as pushing the roster some $20 Mil over budget with his trades and than try to harness the memory of Al Davis to shoulder full responsibility for everything you perceive to have been wicked for so many a season in the "Raider Nation'!!!
Yup!!...Very damn "Consistent" be your hypocrisy!!!!!
Just Keep Up The Stupidity Fool!!!...
It becomes you!!!
..."It becomes you!!!"...
It already is you, jethro, and you don't wear it very well.
JONES
I feel our addition has been through subtraction if you look at the list of people that left only 3 sting in my opion. Rhoutt wimbley bush every one else was second tier...also on a side note aleast all the players son of AL traded for resigned to make room on the cap. Its still early we havnt even got to the camp casualties yet there is still a ton to do before we play. Can't wait
Topher
That's right, Topher...the core is still there, the very same core that the complainers say was so close to being a possible SB contender.
There have been signings to address those losses and there still could be more on the way...but o da horor crowd cries because Denver is winning the signing parade and Reggie isn't doing enough...the guy had to restructure a Front Office, get a completely new coaching staff and restructure 10 or so contracts to get under the cap and decide who would no longer be wanted and released.
Throw in he is now working on the draft and possible signings, all this in less than a couple months....this guy is doing a very good job.
Raiders will win the West and will put Manning down and out. If some are complaining, they aren't for what is best for the TEAM.
JONES
I still dont see this team close to anything. I am also worried about rb now and a brutal schedule. Reggie said he wished he was 5 million over the cap. It took nine years to get here, gonna take a few years to get this straight. I'm in.
Reggie is doing exactly what I thought he would do;
Roll up his sleeves and get to work
(1) restructuring the organization and how it operates
(2) transitioning into the new era with a new owner, head coach, coaching staff, and staff
(3) getting our payroll in order and shedding the out of whack contracts
(4) retooling the roster to fit the cap constraints and needs of the TEAM
(5) getting us on track and stabilized
Still plenty of work and revamping in the near future. Go Reggie Go!
I applaud your methodical, on plan efforts to date and look forward to more positive steps over the course of the next few months.
"You have hated upon the slogans "Greatness of the Raiders"/"Pride-n-Poise"/"Commitment To Excellence" for some time now"
Only because those slogans became meaningless and lost in a cloud of dysfunction.
The Raiders have been losers for nine long seasons, during which time you were all in. Now that they have found their way, you have checked out. These are not "your" Raiders anymore. They are "my" Raiders now! So you can go blog Broncos!
GO RAIDERS!!
From busting out the pom-poms and being patient over the course of 9 consecutive non-winning seasons to now trashing the team and impatiently cursing the new era in less than 2 months without a single practice conducted ...
Yep, sounds about right. Sybil aka Negative Nancy needs to up the medication dose.
Nothing more than a hypocritical, fraud in my book.
TeBlow fans, Donkey fans, and internet trolls not welcome.
Silver and Black Forever
Just say no to donkey trolls....
A very balanced, objective view of the job Reggie is doing by Vic over at Raiderfans.net;
"Reggie McKenzie knew exactly what he was inheriting when he took the position of general manger for the Oakland Raiders.
Yes, a roster full of talent and a youthful foundation in many spots, but a team who was facing tough decisions and no cap space heading into the off-season. Oakland was $20 million over the cap and had no wiggle room with many key players primed to shop their services around the league.
McKenzie acknowledged that during Dennis Allen’s introductory press conference, stating, “From where we are, we’ve got some contracts that are kind of out of whack.” He continued, “But in my discussions and viewing the cap situation, we should be fine.”
So far… so good.
Oakland jettisoned Stanford Routt’s mega-deal, re-structured Richard Seymour’s big cap number, worked with Carson Palmer to alleviate the financial burden and Michael Huff stepped up to help the team by re-working his deal.
But that still left the status of key players like Kamerion Wimbley, Tyvon Branch and Michael Bush up in the air.
Eventually, Branch was franchised, Wimbley was cut and Bush was a luxury they couldn’t bring back. But that has not stopped McKenzie from acquiring solid veteran talent to keep this team competitive and afloat during the NFL’s shopping period.
Cornerback – an area of great need that was a downfall for the 2011 Raiders – has been addressed with some under-the-radar moves. Ron Bartell, coming off a season on injured reserve, but with a solid background as a starter prior to that, is in the mix. Shawntae Spencer, another talent who was limited last year, but with a history as a contributor in San Francisco, will compete for a starting spot with the Silver & Black.
Neither name is glitzy, nor will they likely propel the Raiders atop the defensive standings, but are solid moves considering the monetary investment and the fact that both have incentive to play well under one-year deals if they want to see a nice payday in 2012.
Mike Brisiel will upgrade the right guard spot and help the Raiders stay steady in the trenches. That will be imperative without the depth at running back they’ve had in recent years and the fact that Carson Palmer is 32 and will need ample time to get the ball to his targets.
Certain positions still need a lot of attention; Oakland has to address gaps at linebacker and who will back-up Palmer?
But with the draft still ahead and plenty of free-agents looking for jobs, McKenzie has done enough so far to ease some of the anxiousness Raider fans had heading into the Spring."
Vic makes sense of things that you phoney "New Optimist" are way over the edge about with all this:
"We are champions!!!" happy horse shit!!
This:
"I also think the Raiders will win the AFC West with a prolific offense and much improved defense."
With WHAT????
Have you even looked at the AFCW competition of late???
NO!!...Your too damn busy burring your ugly head in the sands!!!
LoL!!!...Than you quot someone who says:
"Neither name is glitzy, nor will they likely propel the Raiders atop the defensive standings,"
"Mike Brisiel will upgrade the right guard spot.....That will be imperative without the depth at running back"
"Certain positions still need a lot of attention; gaps at linebacker and who will back-up Palmer?"
"McKenzie has done enough so far to ease some of the anxiousness Raider fans had heading into the Spring."
Get that???..."ease some of the anxiousness Raider fans had"
NOT:
"We Are Champions" you ignorant dumb asses!!!
And as you well know it's NOT my boy Reggie that I'm picking on...It's you phoney lying dumb asses with all your "Ding Dong Al Is Dead" routines after being the "Mutinous Dogs" that you really are!!!
PantyRaider...The "Criers Circle" Turns To Crying "V" Before The 1st Toss Of A Coin!!!!/_
Topher...
I was all for both trades but I'm not going to lie about them saying it didn't push us over the edge as regards the Cap constraints...And yes both have restructured which further illustrates that they were damn good trades...
But if you go back it was these same "New Optimist" that were bashing the Raiders for making those trades at the time and the price that was paid...Funny but now with what was paid for an injured Payton not one of them wants to revisit that issue now!!!
memdf...
Exactly...We have lost and now start to regain so "10 Steps Back -n- 7 Steps Forward" but the reality is still not known if these are even equal steps forward???
I was "In" with Reggie well before he was ever pimped on this board by anyone but myself...But I will still question "Where Are You Going With This" when all I could see was losses without a single apparent gain other than recouping some of that $20 Mil that our recent trades pushed us over the Cap...Now finally we have a view of what looks to resemble a "Plan"???
But if you take a real legitimate look at this roster and new coaching staff and weight that against what the rest of the AFCW is doing to improve and that brutal schedule that we will face it's very apparent that crying "CHAMPIONSHIP" is absurd!!!
PantyRaider....Don't Know What Their Smokin!!!!/_
LoL!!...To illustrate the point...
This: NFL Power Rankings
Donks: 8
Dolts:15
Queefs:17
Raiders:26
So now you get a picture of what those without the "Blinders" are seeing!!!
Bet is still on the table, jethro, Raiders win the West. You have been bitching like a teenager about what a "mess the org is", it's not just about you telling us we are dumb because we predict an AFC West division championship. Naww, your fake dispair about how the team is being run is very well documented...look who is squirmin now!!!! Your head has been heavily damaged, you can't even remember what you wrote a week ago...stop jumpin those damn fences.
JONES
Cast you vote for the Raiders against the Rams and vote often...NOW!!!
http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/alltimeteams?round=4
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#Raiders have reached out to former #Bengals, 49ers linebacker Manny Lawson, according to league source. He is waiting to see how discussions with Packers go.
McFadden, Darren RB 6-2 210#s
Jones, Taiwan RB 6-0 195#s
Jackson, Rashawn RB 6-1 240#s
Miller, Lonyae RB 6-0 230#s
Reece, Marcel FB 6-3 240#s
Tonga, Manase FB 5-11 245#s
Who's out there to improve on what we now have that's worth going after???
Haters Are Running Up The Score: Raiders @ 49% So Get Pro-Active -n- VOTE!!!
Raiders n Ravens as an anti-“Donkey” vote
http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/alltimeteams?round=4&module=HP11_hot_topics#matchup=1
As far as signing a RB to compliment McFadden, and one that could be fairly cheap; Cedric Benson. Benson is more of a powerback than Bush, and I think that would give us a Garner/Wheatley feel.
I still think we need a DT, OT, and a Potential #1 WR as well. But we don't have the cap room.
Raider Nate 75....
It's iffy at this point just trying to land that "OLB" and than where's the depth???
But I agree we have many more needs yet unfulfilled to really even be competitive...
PantyRaider...Can Reggie Do It!!!/_
Interesting Math:
#1...Raiders move up one spot with New Orleans losing their 2nd round draft pick.
#2...Raiders took Terrelle Pryor in supplementary draft which means there is one less third round pick too.
We now are picking at #95...
Or sooner if we get those 3rd rd comp-draft picks???...
"Prediction? PAIN" Mr. T's greatest line ever.
The Broncos, having shed Tebow, must now change EVERYTHING UP in their offense... Big plus for OakTown. I think Manning is going to be a BUST.
The Jets will, undoubtedly, have QB controversy that will scramble their season. Big plus for US.
AFC and NOT on OUT TEAM? Aah PITY the FOOL!
Statisticians and naysayers, whatever... dweebs who are WRONG season after season. Move forward by faith. Like YOU KNOW WHO. Haha!!! (me)
...OUR team, typo... sorry.
"I think Manning is going to be a BUST."
Really? Manning a bust? Sorry, but that's rich. Maybe teams in the AFCW will just lay down and let us win the division.
I'm not squirming, hopping fences, or wavering from my AFCW divisional crown prediction.
"I also think the Raiders will win the AFC West with a prolific offense and much improved defense." - Calico Jack
Yes, this quote is what I believe Negative Nancy.
You've got your 8-8 prediction ... now own it. It is all yours.
"SquirmJack"....
I will make NO Prediction at this point while addressing a depleted roster and newbie coaches with little to no familiarity with our roster nor identity whatever that may now become!!!
I simply posted we may be "Potentially as good as last season" and for the record that was "8-n-8"....
But you cry of "Champions" is as far fetched as you could possibly get and well beyond any resemblance of reality!!!...But than what else would I expect from such a total fraud who's word isn't worth the lead it takes to put it on paper!!!
Well actually it's a damn good thing the Lead is being spared because it's value would far outweigh anything you have ever posted to date!!!
At least I can brag about being #1 in the RT "Hall-o-Fame"...LoL!!!
Stupid “Mediot”s -n-Their Fans:
Definition: The Stupid “Mediot”s Fan”
Trying to HangOut with da “Men-n-Black”…Tryin to stick a knife in da back….In “Anonymity” the fool hides…With his “FingerBoard” there at his side…Like some “KeyJerk” tryin to be Clever…But alas he can never Deliver…Be he the “Mediot“s creation…He feeds upon their Secretion…As he dines on their Vomit…He thinks their a Comic….Oh! So weary the little Boy servey…Scummy is what da “Mediot”s Expungey…Nothin Original…Only da Copy…da Cloney…Just da Phony…Fulla-Baloney…Excited be he hidden where no one can see…he Attack’th in a Flurry like Waves on the Sea…returnin to play “DonkyKong” on his PS1..till another Cloney Thought his little mind has Spun…Hurry to da “FingerBoard” with a smile on his face…he Expunges like a Dog da “Mediot”s Vomit in Disgrace…Excited-n-Hyper he dances around…thinking he has been an Extravagant Clown…Just another “NerdBird” flappin in a Roost…..Who can’t fly away from the smell of his own Poop….A nervous tweeter all feathered wit jitters….Like the rest of those foul feathered critters…He flaps around cackling in his “Rants” ….Like some “KneeJerk” with ants in his pants…He be tryin to be “Funky…While he slappen da “Monkey”…Be he da
“Pill Poppen Junky”
The Pill Popper Prozacey
He Just a Little Wacky
Rollin Round in da Sackey
His Sleep be He Lackey
Be He Chicken Choaky
He be Hell-a-Balokey
Dreamin Like da Cloney
In da World-o-da-Phoney
Wit “FingerBoard”-n-Hand
He Try’n to be da Man
Be He Clever if He Can
So Writes da “Mediot”s Fan
Lookin for his 10 seconds of Fame…Like some “Half-wit-Insane” …in his dreams are the words “Rack’em”…But Oh! da Shame! It never happen!!…Try as he may to find the clever words that he can say…to da Great “Mediot” gods do’th he pray…Listen to their Crap every day from the Sack…He now must practice all dat “Smack” …While’st he be learning how to Attack…But be he fearful of the Flack…”A Blogger Shall I Be!!” he exclaims in Glee…“In ‘Anonymity’ No-Name Shall I Be”…Just a “Freak” we don’t see….
Now don’t take this personal all those who do not hide…In “Shame” like some “Half-wit-Insane” brain fried…The great and the Small who the “Brick’s show do go…Raider Mike…Manny-da-Cabby…Packer-Backer-Dan…Voo-Doo-Boo-ga-Loo…etc..etc..etc…the Original Posties and da Speakers-o-Smack…who cleverly understand how to attack…The “Blogger-n-Logger”s of the cites so plenty…who do not hide in Shameful “Anonymity”…a Great Personality onto themselves…no “CopyCat” Phonics like some “Jungle” Electronics…With a “Repeater” in hand tryin to be like da Man…While acting like they can…”I’m Out”…”I’m Out”…”I’m Out”…”I’m Out”….So echoes that “Nerd”….
Never an original thought does he Post…Only attack the owner like some “Ghost”…Repeating what was said a century ago…By the“ Nerd”s on some ancient radio show…Pretending to posses a “Raider”s soul….In “Anonymity” he's just a “Troll”….“Annous” the “SuckAss” and a “Mediot”s Troll…
Just Die Already Baby!!!
Well I pimped you Reggie and it's interesting to see that you have some "Al" that lives on in you...But than he was your original teacher!!!
This: 4 New "CB"s...LoL!!!...Where's all the tears???
Brandon Underwood has had several run-ins with the law and is hoping to get a fresh start with the Raiders. You can't really call it a "second chance" considering that he has been implicated in crimes on four different occasions-three times since joining the NFL. This prompted the Packers to eventually release him and he was out of football all of last season.
Ron Bartell was also out of football in 2011 after he suffered a broken neck. Such an injury can be a scary thing and most times will end a players' football career. He didn't garner much of any interest around the league and was essentially a forgotten man. Until he cleared medical tests and the Raiders signed him. Then everyone was like; "Oh yeah, Ron Bartell. I remember him."
Shawntae Spencer went down in camp for the 49ers last season with a hamstring injury. While he was out, he lost his starting job to newly signed Carlos Rogers. He never got that job back and Rogers went on to a Pro Bowl season. The team re-signed Rogers long term and Spencer became expendable.
Pat Lee was a former second round pick by the Packers in 2008. He couldn't break into the top three corners and was placed on injured reserve for the final few games of his rookie season. He was then lost for the entire 2009 season with a knee injury.
PantyRaider...The More Things Change The More They Remain The Same!!!!/_
Com'on Reggie Don't "GB" Beat You Out!!!
Raiders | Remain interested in Dave Tollefson
Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:44:31 -0700
The Oakland Raiders remains interested in free-agent DL Dave Tollefson (Giants). However, they’re in competition with the Green Bay Packers, who are also interested in his services.
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Broncos find backup option for Manning in Hanie
Make no mistake, it's not a Plan B, but the Denver Broncos have found a backup for Peyton Manning in former Bears quarterback Caleb Hanie.
LoL!!!...If Payton goes down that Bear "FlameOut" will be all that's left...Potentially even worse than Tebow!!!
Bounty anyone???
Ha! Ha! "BashJack" Al's very last draft pick has it all over on you no matter how much you hate on him for kickin your ass in my challenge!!!
Terrelle Pryor: Raiders want me as QB
Pryor is about to begin his second season in the NFL, and he enters it as a quarterback. He dismissed rumors that the Raiders organization, which selected him Aug. 23 in the third round of the supplemental draft, asked him to switch positions.
"I haven't heard them," Pryor said about the rumors. "That's not even a question. I'm still working to become the best quarterback."
And YES he was ready to play:
He got on the field for one play, but the Raiders were penalized before the snap and Pryor returned to the sidelines. The game was Oct. 23 against Kansas City.
"I had a whole package for that game," Pryor said. "I was going to make a bunch of throws, but we ended up getting smashed and I was yanked. Who knows where it would have gone? I'm confident I would have been successful during that time. We were down, 21-0, and we didn't run any plays."
"The suspension put me way behind," Pryor said. "But the future is bright, and I'm living in the future."
"I'm getting a fresh start with the new staff coming in," Pryor said. "I'm going to learn the new system just like all the other quarterbacks. All I'm just looking for is a fair shot."
"The new staff told us that all positions are open, so you have to battle for the position you want," Pryor said. "There is going to be some good competition. Once you get the position, you have to keep fighting for it.
"Like Tom Brady said, he felt he had to work hard every day, like he was going to lose his job. That's what gives him that edge that he never wanted to be behind someone. That quote right there lifted me up and picked up my spirits. To hear him say that makes me work extra hard."
"I can go in and talk to the coaches, but it can't be about football," Pryor said. "I knew the coaches are eager to get started, and so am I.
"I've been working out with (Raiders teammates) Darren McFadden, Jacoby Ford and Taiwan Jones. I'm training hard, and I'm looking at film. It's good to be in there and have chemistry with my teammates. To see how hard they work, it pushed me to work even harder."
PantyRaider....Yah!!...Work Hard And Just Play baby!!!
PR said: "Well I pimped you Reggie and it's interesting to see that you have some "Al" that lives on in you...."
Please! Don’t pretend you haven’t been bashing Reggie McKenzie and Dennis Allen and Mark Davis.
Please get your damn ass out from around your head and understand that I have been bashing your ignorant stupidity and still am!!!!
Your the dumb ass that thinks a shinny new "GM" is all it takes to get to the promised land when 31 other NFL team and a multitude of teams in every other sport have theirs too and continue to fail to qualify!!
Now that's just plain ignorance!!!
And make NO mistake about it...I'm NOT projecting any "Championships" at this point in time!!!!
NOR have I declared the season a loss but I will damn sure raise some questions when it doesn't look like beneficial progress is being made!!!
But than you always did think with your ass!!!
At this point can't tell them apart???...Is that the Head or the Ass???
They both stink the same!!!...LoL!!!
PantyRaider...Try Again Dumb-Dumb!!!.....That Attempt Was ASININE!!!
Now I know it's just eating you little bitches apart to see your fantasy of the "New Raider Era" melting down into the same "Bad Boy" era that was Al's to project as Marc/Reggie follow closely in their mentor's footsteps with Newbie -n- Retread Coaches (Some of whom were hired by Al himself) along with 1st rd picks that failed to amount to their exalted status as well as that "Criminal Element that made the Raiders so "Raider Like" and of course "Rejacts" like Palmer/Curry and the rest!!!
LoL!!!!...Eat your asses out bitches!!!
Well that;'s where your heads are at so what else would be in your mouths except "CRAP"!!!!
PR said: "Please get your damn ass out from around your head and understand that I have been bashing your ignorant stupidity and still am!!!!"
So it's just an inside joke between us? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't come off that way to the folks reading Raider Take.
Let me get this straight... The inside joke is that your "10 steps backwards" speak was just for kicks? And all the crying about McKenzie losing free agents that Al Davis signed was to poke fun? All the talk the Raiders will be no better than 8-8 is just to pick on us?
I'm just touching the surface. You have spent several weeks documenting your disdain for McKenzie, Allen and Mark Davis.
Wow, Reggie... More Action Please!!!
Reading these posts lately you wouldn't know that we're all on the same side as Raider fans.
We're now down to insults of who said what when about everyone and everything; we get more civility from divisional rival fans. It's kinda like arguing about who has the best fantasy team (can't stand F F)... Bring on the draft or anything before the blood flows...
Panty, love your stats and all but maybe a little decaf is in order?
Personally, I'm just excited that everything is different apart from the uniforms(don't ever want to change that!)... we had no GM now we do and there won't be anymore irrational Hall type signings... Jackson was a pretty good OC, but as HC after Davis was gone, the job dwarfed him... we had no DC of worth now we have a HC whose a very good DC so I trust his DC pic... we had players with questionable motivation, now they're gone... CLEAN HOUSE!!!
Sad to lose the players who proved themselves but that's just biz, and we have a very good personnel and numbers guy sorting through the mess... and now the circus left town and our division is suddenly relevant (Manning v Tebow), which is good all round, the Broncos will be better but so will we!!
So... at least until the team and organization prove me wrong On The Field, I'm gonna remain...
EXCITED and HOPEFUL... GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
What Fuckin Disdain???
Now "Questioning" where is this going is to pimp "disdain for McKenzie, Allen and Mark Davis."
Now aren't you the tool!!!
You trying to return to your roll on the "Censor Board" deciding what others can post/question/relate/speculate here???
LoL!!!...And you try to display "Wit" but to your utter dismay you haven't a clue so as always just screw you Baby!!!
Now onto other things of legitimate importance instead of Cock Eyed "Impudence"!!!
Or was that "Impotence"???
"Erectile dysfunction" got you down???
LoL!!!
bazjoz...
I'll have you know I don't even drink coffee!!...LoL!!
But I will admit to sipping the "Orange Imperial" in Orange Juice of late...Cognac!!!
But that's not enough to even cop a buzz...Just so delicious!!!
The "Stats" stuff is unfortunately the reality of late or should it be stated as the "Unfortunate Reality"???...Just keeping score of the comings and goings and to date we be in the "Red"!!!
Now I'm very hopeful that by the time camp rolls around Reggie has gotten it together and we have enough to base real hope upon for the early portion of this 2012 season...But as it stands today that score sheet's not presenting a very pretty picture and most certainly NOT something leading to making these far fetched fictitious predictions of "Championships" unless of course your smoking something of the strangest kind???
But alas I'm NOT down on my Raiders/Marc/Reggie and the lot...But I'm damn sure down on the total "BS" that's coming out of some very dumb "Pie Holios" of late!!!...LoL!!!
As always it's "10-n-6 AFCW Champs or Bust" but that's just NOT supported by whats on the table at present...Unless of course you can show me the reason for such exuberance besides "Hooray For Al Going Away"!!!
PantyRaider...To Question Is To Question!!...Nothing More It Seems!!!!/_
Funny no word about the 2 new front office personnel moves...I was expecting one of you "New Optimist" to be all over that one like it was the "Bell Call" of the "New Era" ringing threw!!!...LoL!!..
2 men will now do what Harrara did on his own!!!
bazjoz...
Don't you get a kick out of seeing everything that Al Davis did in the past regurgitated and pimped as "Stupendous" when it was always Bashed as stupidity as long as Al was the one doing it???
Just wondering???
Seems to me you talk all the samck on this board but you're unwilling to own it.
You've basically trashed every move that Mark Davis, McKenzie and Allen have made, plus you were ready and willing to throw Allen to the wolves for bounty-gate, which he has yet to be officially implicated.
Since Al died, you've become a Raider-hater.
NEGATIVE NANCY
If you don't like what's going on in the new ERA of RAIDER FOOTBALL then get the FUK out of here.
YOU ARE NOT A RAIDER FAN YOU ARE A SICK, TWISTED, AND OBSESSED AL DAVIS FAN.
NOBODY is forcing you to like THE NEW ERA.
Even though AL has passed away YOU insist on LIVING with your head up AL'S ASS.
It's about time to remove your head OUT of AL'S AAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!
YOU FUKIN VILLAGE IDIOT!!!
SCALR8R
NYR...not only did he say Allen was in shit over 'bouty gate', he also wrote that Reggie hadn't done his homework on Allen and this 'bouty' will bite him in the ass.
He laughed that Allen and the Raiders would be damaged by it. He mocked Reggie for not knowing what he was doing for hiring a guy who would be punished.
Then he jumps the fence and proclaims he 'pimped' Reggie before everyone else and he is 'his guy'. Now he is pimping that Reggie is running the team in the same manner as Mr.Davis.
TROLL, nothing more, nothing less...feeding it just makes it more hungry to spew it's insanity. It get's it's kicks out of getting people to respond to it. It get's some feeling of superiority from yanking chains. It has no life and it's only meaning is to troll sites and incite anger = not worth a penny. I agree with the comment "village idiot", sums it up very well.
JONES
Keep pimping your fantasies that dumb DEMON -n- his shadow will bite!!!
You look really sweet snuggled up together all in a row that I don't read!!!
If Reggie signs a player, I am 100% certain he has done his due diligence in terms of ROI, medical history, skill evaluation, risks, etc.
Underwood, Bartell, Spencer, and Lee are 4 signings with legitimate questions that will need to be answered in due time.
There are risks and potential upsides for these 4 CBs. If there weren't risks associated with these players we wouldn't have been able to sign them to relatively low sums of money and short term contracts.
I also look at from the standpoint of Reggie putting together the best possible 80 man roster for camp to create the competition and depth required to compete.
Until the 53 man roster is finalized, I will patiently observe Reggie doing his job.
As far as Negative Nancy "pimping" Reggie but slamming him at every opportunity, it is a product of a fraudulent mind that lacks any credibility or integrity. Negative Nancy is happy living in the past and the new era upsets her. I get it.
Where Reggie has completely shifted gears is in signing multiple players to create a pool of talent from which to select.
Too often in the past, the Raiders would put all their eggs in one basket only to find the eggs were rotten.
Reggie is right on course.
Blogger Calico Jack said...
Although it would be unconventional, I think Jackson's input into the selection of a GM type executive has some merit.
The relationship between Jackson and the future GM/executive will be critical to the transition and the organization's future success.
5:53 PM
Blogger Calico Jack said...
I agree RT. There is some relatively young guy out there with the energy, passion, intelligence, moxie, and experience who can keep the Raiders identity in tact, brings fresh ideas to the table, and support Jackson.
6:02 PM
Blogger Calico Jack said...
Using trusted former Raiders like Madden as counsel to Trask, M. Davis, and Jackson would be prudent.
With Trask involved in the business and legal component of the team and Mark Davis being more or less a figure-head, Jackson would seem to be in a position where he would need to endorse and buy-in to any selection.
This is an unusual situation yet fitting for a team that is unconventional in many respects.
8:57 PM
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Blogger PantyRaider said...
The younger prospect would have some advantage as far as longevity and perhaps free thinking and new ideas...But at a loss when it comes to experience -n- wisdom -n- just plain football knowledge and the ability to earn the respect of the other old men in the room...Owners...
Than there's the problem with knowing a young man's heart??...How do you with an outsider???...This is a time tested quality...As in the case of Parcels who threw time has proven to not be a finisher...Al Davis was a very principled man who held to what was very dear to him...No young man is in a position to exemplify that while his dick still runs his head!!!
Do we want to end up with another "JawBone" Hanson???...That could happen...
So I instead look to an old and tested insider or very close and respected friend with tremendous knowledge and experience and the other time tested qualities to be that man in the near future...I see that as a primary need and it's already been reported that some now see the Raiders as vulnerable and attackable...That older man is very much needed for a view of stability and strength!!!
Included with him may be another or a small group of others who would be in training for the position at a later date...I will certainly sign off on that because than we still have that young voice and new ideas without the risk of running the ship aground!!!..Hue is that now!!
But than I'm an old man so view things much differently than the younger mind that's so eager for change that they risk the safety of the ship...
I don't think Al Davis would have left a list of young that placed his organization at such risks???...Like the bringing in of Bresnahan who is older with proven tested loyalties...Not the Winston Moss that I was pimping with all his new tactics learned in "GB"...I see the wisdom in what Al Davis has done so far in leaving his organization in good hand and don' expect to see any swerving from that very wise course now...
PantyRaider...Slow-n-Sure-w-Steady Hand St The Helm!!!/_
9:36 PM
Blogger PantyRaider said...
Raiders move forward, look to fill GM spot
Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis had served as the team's G.M. from 1963 until his passing on Saturday. The Raiders will now look to hire a general manager, and the club has started the search to find such a person to work in concert with head coach Hue Jackson, according to league sources.
The Raiders' model would likely be set up somewhat like Pittsburgh's, in which coach Mike Tomlin and G.M. Kevin Colbert work in concert.
The Raiders also could hire a consultant, likely an experienced hand like Ernie Accorsi or Ron Wolf, to help them through the rest of this season. Wolf, best known for his success as G.M. of the Green Bay Packers in the '90s, worked for Davis' Raiders for 26 years.
Blogger PantyRaider said...
Raider News:
Raiders | Interested in Reggie McKenzie?
Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:50:38 -0700
The Oakland Raiders have formed a team of consultants to find a general manager for the organization now that managing general partner Al Davis has died. Among the consultants is former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, who along with others recommended Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie. It is not clear, however, if the Raiders have approached the Packers for permission to interview McKenzie.
Blogger PantyRaider said...
It's being reported that the Raiders are interviewing Reggie McKenzie today.
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Raiders | To interview Reggie McKenzie for GM job
Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:29:14 -0800
Green Bay Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie is expected to interview for the Oakland Raiders general manager position Wednesday, Jan. 4, according to a source.
Blogger PantyRaider said...
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Reggie McKenzie, Packers director of football operations, is expected to interview for Raiders GM position today, according to source
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Per NFL policy, a potential GM candidate can interview whenever employer club deems it appropriate. Not limited to bye week of playoffs
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S-T Blog: If #Bears are interested in Reggie McKenzie, they may have to move fast. He's interviewing in Oakland today bit.ly/Amo4co
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I can assure you that Packers GM Ted Thompson is rooting for Reggie McKenzie to head to the Raiders. Wouldn't want him in the NFC North
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And now that the Packers have granted one request, they cannot prevent any others, meaning #Bears can also interview Reggie McKenzie.
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NFL policy also makes clear that while interviews can take place, a contract cannot be executed until employer club's playing season is over
Pertaining to "KC"s "HC" search:
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Per NFL policy, because they've allowed McKenzie to interview, Packers could deny opportunties for others to interview, like John Dorsey.
9:06 AM
Blogger PantyRaider said...
"NYR"...
If during today's interview process with X-Raider Reggie McKenzie the subject is discussed as to what would be the best approach for his homecoming than I really don't see much of an issue???
"SuckChuck" decision can be made as well as other assistant coaches such as "WR"s coach who hasn't been discussed....Than those processes can take place so the slate is already clean for the homecoming...
This than would mean that Reggie McKenzie has signed off on Hue and Hue has signed off on him...I would suspect??...
I'm just very excited for it to get done so we can move onto other very important issues...Such as who has been tagged as replacements which could also be discussed today???...
And don't forget it was the "GB" "GM" Ted Thompson who was recommending Reggie McKenzie shortly after Al's passing...So presumably the 2 teams are willing to work together...Which means other opportunities may be there for further discussions prior to the actual contract being signed with respect to potential candidates for "DC" and assistants...
PantyRaider....Exciting Time In The Nation!!!/_
9:24 AM
Blogger PantyRaider said...
Reggie McKenzie to interview with Raiders Wednesday
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 4, 2012, 11:45 AM EST
R. McKenzie AP
There was a power vacuum in Oakland’s personnel department during the season following the death of owner Al Davis.
With the regular season over, Raiders ownership is moving quickly to fill a general manager position.
Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that Packers director of football operations Reggie McKenzie will interview for the G.M. job on Wednesday.
This is a move that former Packers G.M. Ron Wolf has been pushing for a while. Florio delved deeply into the issue this morning in a post everyone should read. (If you are into this sort of thing. Which you should be if you made it this far.)
It’s a fascinating dynamic. Raiders coach Hue Jackson may not be entirely comfortable with the direction that this G.M. search is heading, especially if McKenzie brings along Wolf’s son Eliot Wolf.
Jackson wants to be involved with the G.M. search, but his role in the process remains unclear. (Like a lot of things in Oakland.)
Post-season hiring drama is nothing new with the Raiders. Hiring guys like McKenzie and Wolf, who come from the Packers organization, could help them avoid so much drama in the future.
9:58 AM
Your Turn Dumb Asses!!!
My Shit Is All Documented NOT with your false fuckin LIES!!!!
Look at Nancy, it wants someone to play with it. Nancy, no one will play if you don't play nice....look at Nancy, pimping articles she copied and pasted as if she wrote them herself. Go play in the mirror, Nancy.
JONES
Nancy
Do you need a hug?
Go into your closet, put on your high hills and play with your Al Davis dolls.
YOU VILLAGE IDIOT!!!
SCALR9R
PR said: "Your Turn Dumb Asses!!!
My Shit Is All Documented NOT with your false fuckin LIES!!!!"
Yes, it is; that's what I keep telling you. Ok. I'll take a swing. This is fun! Look what I found in a matter of minutes... just think what I could find if I actually tried.
EVERYTHING below is a direct quote from PANTYRAIDER:
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Blogger PantyRaider said...
"Dennis The Menace" Allen..
I'm dieing laughin at this pointy...NOT because I'm so freakin happy for my Raiders....I'm NOT!!!....But because this "New Era In Raider History" SUCKS!!!!
And I was promised that with a shiny new "GM" that all the top tier Coaches would want to come here....LIES!!!!!...Fuckin LIES!!!
CRAP!!!!...That's all the hell I can See Is CRAP!!!!
As you all know I was NOT impressed with the selection of "Dennis The Menace" as our shinny new "HC" and questioned how he will do what he has never had to do before....Hire!!!...
Right!!!...Another "Mutiny" like we had under Shell II....So promising!!!
I type "LOL" but you know inside I'm crying!!!
Well now you know how y'all sounded for so many a defunct season on your "Trail-o-Tear" in your "Valley-o-Doom-n-Gloom"!!!
I just never dreamed I would be joining you there...Never!!!
For the record: My Prediction
We will NOT come out the gate posting a winning record and if and when we do start posting "V"s it will be late in the season with little hope of a "PO" berth....
NOT "Explosive Offense" But "Implosive Offense Is What Dennis Wants!!!
Can I borrow your old Bucket to collect all these tears???
Maybe a deal for Tebow is in the works so we can be blessed!!!
The "New Era"...What a freakin JOKE that is so far!!!
But now also add the entire overturning of the "D" staff as well as the terminology and schemes and that doubles the chances of equating to slowed or diminishing returns...
Now add in also the "ST"s and this is a formula for failure!!!
Now we sink even further as the "OC" has had a consistent tendency to fail threw time
PantyRaider.....Reality Sucks!!!/!
LOL, you are right NYR, it is fun slamming Nancy, LOL. Butt, in the end, LOL, Nancy has problems and she shouldn't be taken all that seriously. Nancy has noodle problems and the want to be seen as the "loyal" and "righteous" and "politically correct" Nancy.
But in the end, again, Nancy comes off as the exact opposite it tries to portrait. It comes off as the 'demon', the liar, the hypocrite, the flip flopper etc. Nancy is a lonely troll, a cheap hooker looking for a cheap trick. Nancy is done, good bye Nancy, ya drama queen.
JONES
If you cut through all the crap, the mindless cutting and pasting, the 3000+ words of gibberish, it really boils down to the following;
Negative Nancy is nothing more than an attention seeking internet trolling whore who also happens to be a Raider hater.
NYR,
this one cracks me up,
"NOT "Explosive Offense" But "Implosive Offense Is What Dennis Wants!!!"
Really Negative Nancy? Are you sure that you aren't projecting your wishes for the Raiders to fail onto our offense? onto our Head Coach?
Your first step to recovery is to be honest with yourself. Deep down inside you want the Raiders to fail. Nothing would please you more than to see Allen, McKenzie, and M.Davis fail. You don't want to embrace the new era. You don't want to support Allen, McKenzie, and M.Davis. But most importantly, you don't want to support the Raiders. Why? Because you never were a Raider fan but only an Al Davis worshiper. Sad that you can't cherish the Raiders past but still live in the present by supporting the team.
BLEED SILVER & BLACK AND WORSHIP OUR RAIDERS.
NEG NANCY AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT ARE NOT IN CAN KISS MY AAAAAASSSSSSS!!!
AL IS GONE FOREVER,LET IT GO,MOVE ON AND SUPPORT OUR RAIDERS.
GO RAIDERS!!!
SCALR8R
Bravo-Bravo-Bravo!!!
"What a freakin JOKE that is so far!!!"
Yes!!...That was my initial reaction to what transpired after I pimped Reggie for the job....NOT what I was expecting to see all...
But NOT the pure stupidity that "StupidJack" was pimping!!!
Blogger Calico Jack said...
"I think Jackson's input into the selection of a GM type executive has some merit."
"I agree RT. There is some
relatively young guy out there with the energy, passion, intelligence, moxie, and experience who can keep the Raiders identity in tact, brings fresh ideas to the table, and support Jackson."
"Mark Davis being more or less a figure-head, Jackson would seem to be in a position where he would need to endorse and buy-in to any selection."
"This is an unusual situation yet fitting for a team that is unconventional in many respects."
WHAT!!!...
"Mark Davis being more or less a figure-head"...NO vote of confidence there now was there for the "Dumb son of Al"???
"who can keep the Raiders identity in tact"
NO...Your pimping the "New Era" Identity where NOTHING relating to Mr Davis is carried over!!!!
"Jackson would need to endorse and buy-in to any selection."
This is fitting for a team that is unconventional in many respects.
Are you fuckin MAD!!!!....
You who think Hue was the only man in the building worth consulting on a new "GM" and who threw Marc under the bus are now trying to deny that and cry "Marc-Reggie-Allan" when you never even uttered their names prior to your "New Raider Order" Bull Shit!!!
I was pimping "GB" executive help and Reggie by name clear back in October and also brought his name up way back last season as an option that Al Davis my have in his sights...But I was NOT and at this time am NOT very impressed with the naming of "Denice The Menace" but especially NOT impressed with some of "DA"s appointments of coaches and I still question that as stated:
"OC" Knapp???
"DC" Jason Tarver???
"OL" Frank Pollack???
"LB"s Johnny Holland???
As I also question the release of some players as well as the non-pursuing of a few and the replacements coming off injury???
But than that's what I always do:
Pimp/Question -n- Support My Raiders!!!
You have failed again "NYR" so go back and keep searching!!!...Ya see it's going to be very difficult because I'm NOT the LIAR and therefor don't display the outright inconsistencies that LIES portray...That's your bag to carry!!!...
Mine is to continue to "Pimp/Question -n- Support" My Raiders!!!
PantyRaider..."I'll take a swing"!!!....LoL!!!/_
STRIKEOUT!!!
Still need your votes until 5:00 pm ET
2:00 PM PT
http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/alltimeteams?round=4&module=HP11_hot_topics#matchup=1
My boy Pryor in Camp...Looks like a "QB" from where I'm sitting!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvLqV7tmZDs
Ok... 3rd,4th, and 5th round Compensatory Picks... coulda used a 2nd but hey... let's hope Reggie & Co. can emulate some of the late Al Davis' outstanding late round finds!
GO RAIDERS!!!
Late third round is the earliest available for compensatory picks. Asomugha must have been responsible for that one. IMO, having three additional picks is huge.
Davis has had a decent track record of middle and late round picks over the last several years. Hopefully, Reggie will enjoy similar success, particularly this year when we need it most.
To follow up, pick #95, which the Raiders were awarded, was highest available comp pick.
For all the folks that have argued whether or not the Raiders made a splash in FA last year, think about this from Corkran:
"Given the Raiders lost cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, guard Robert Gallery, linebacker Thomas Howard and tight end Zach Miller, that should be enough to offset the signings of tight end Kevin Boss and a few other free agents."
The fact that the Raiders scored THREE Compensatory draft picks, including the highest pick available (#95) means they experienced a tremendous NET LOSS in free agency.
2011 was the year of the FA ANTI-SPLASH.
And the truth keeps rolling right over Nancy, Boss ended up a backup on the roster and Pryor will be lucky to hang on to 3rd string.....like I said, more like a 'ripple'.
JONES
Now we will see what Reggie can bring to the table with the available picks....the show is about to begin...bring it Reggie!
JONES
But Good Enough To Defeat You!!!!
LoL!!!...Still Crying I see!!!
For the record "FA" (Free Agency) included Trades and "Sup-Draft Picks in my challenge the total of which added up to a "Splash"!!!
But at least Al scored on his net losses while 2013 we aren't very likely to get anything because our losses are due to cuts which don't apply!!!!
The highest Comp Pick would have been #97 had it not been for the "Sup-Draft" Pick spent on Pryor and the 2nd rd pick taken from "NO"....So ya see the Pryor addition has moved us up one spot!!!
Just further rewards to tabulate on top of the "V" that it scored over you!!!
LoL!!!
PantyRaider...."SlapJack" Hates Pryor....LoL!!!!/_
bazjoz...
So now we have 5:
3rd/4th/(2)5ths/6th rd picks this season...
"Their first round pick goes to the Bengals for Carson Palmer. Their second round pick goes to the Patriots as part of a deal to move up and draft Joseph Barksdale and Taiwan Jones in last year's draft. Their third round pick was spent in the supplemental draft on Terrelle Pryor. Their fourth round pick completes the trade to acquire Jason Campbell. Their seventh rouder went as part of the deal to acquire Aaron Curry."
This is where the "Evaluation Of Talent" should come in and after finding those "Gems in the Rough" who go undrafted NOT now while looking at veteran players who everyone already knows...That's NOT "Gems in the rough"!!!
LoL!!!...But "Some" just don't get that!!!
PantyRaider....How Many Starters Out Of The 6??....Any Takers!!!!/_
End of sudden death? A look at proposed rule changes
1. Overtime rule expansion
Make it the same all season long...
2. Instant replay changes
A) eliminate referees going "under the hood" to view replays. It would all be decided upstairs.
B) make all turnovers automatically reviewed
3. Trade deadline
moving the trade deadline back from Week 6 to Week 8.
4. Roster exceptions
A) There is a proposal to add one injured reserve exception. Every team would essentially get to designate one player every season to bring back from IR. The player would have to be on the roster through the first weekend of the season, then sit out at least eight weeks total. They could return to practice in six weeks.
B) Another proposal will allow each team to pick one player per week that has a concussion to go on the inactive list and be replaced on the active roster.
5. Expanding offseason rosters
Teams will be allowed to have 90 players in the offseason and training camp instead of 80. But unsigned draft picks will now count on the total, which is a change from the past.
6. Too many men on the field adjustment
make it a deadball foul with no time coming off the clock.
The Raiders end up with a mother load of compensatory picks and suffer the worst free agency NET LOSS of 32 NFL teams, and spanky here still labels it a splash.
Has your brain taken a vacation?
And "for the record" trades were never part of the free agency challenge.
"NYR"!!!...You really trying to get on that lying thing again aren't you!!!
What was:
Calrson Palmer/Vincent Jackson/Vince Young so called by name while under contract with other teams...
The 1st 2 left via Trade while the 3rd was eventually released and signed as a "FA" but none of that was known at the time I posted that Challenge/wager now was it???
TRADES were very much a part of the "FA" period just as much as that "Sup-Draft" pick so named was also and you know it!!!
In fact of all the examples I posted only one (Plaxico Burris) was an "URFA" who could have signed with any team he chose....Only 1 out of 5 so named and your trying to deny Trades were part of that equation???
Your as dumb as "SquirmJack"!!!
You just can't argue with this:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16702745&postID=5916134962836108605
Blogger PantyRaider said...
Doubt your man enough to "Put Up Or Shut Up" but I will wager that Mr Davis makes a splash in "FA" this season....
Clarification:
At least one big name player if not 2....
Projected Possibilities:
"QB"s...Vince Young/Carson Palmer
"WR"s...Vincent Jackson/Plaxaco Burris
"OT"....________________________
"OLB"...________________________
"Sup-Draft"...Slash Pryor
8:12 AM
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But as dumb as you are you will no doubt try!!!
Time for Reggie to work his magic in the late rounds.
2011 - The year of the Free Agent anti-perspirant ... "dry as a bone".
Silver and Black Forever. Cheers, CJ
Start voting now...We're up against the "85" Bears so this is going to be tough!!!
http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/alltimeteams?round=5
Clarification from my man Reggie on the definition of "Out Of Whack"...
NOT what you thought it was!!!
"A little bit of both. When you talk about production versus a salary. In this business, once you get into the NFL, let's face it guys, contract and production all of that goes hand in hand. If something's not matching, kind of out of whack, you know, you're gonna have to be forced to make a decision. And that's what I was coming up to. It was not all just either or.
"If the production is not there but if the guy is making the minimum, you know, then so be it. You can use this guy as a backup because of the contract. But when the same doesn't work out contractually and production, you gotta be forced to evaluate. That's how you enter every season. We're all up against that. We gotta be evaluated. So that's where I made my decision. It wasn't ‘you're costing us too much money, you gotta go' no, if the guy was highly productive and we can make it work, we try to make it work financially but if not we're gonna have to make certain decision, some tough decisions. Which we did."
"What I don't want to do is allow this to get us in the end." Said McKenzie. "I always want to be in position where if we want to add a quality player who we feel like it works out financially, cap wise, I wanna be in position to make a move. That's always been my whole outlook. When we had to make certain cuts, we do it with a future plan that we had. So far it's working accordingly."
"Out Of Whack" is NOT just about $$$$...Nothing was done to cut Kelly/Seymour/Curry/Palmer/Huff and others who are making the big $$$$'s but moves were made to keep them while getting under the Cap as well....
Bottom line if players like Routt/Wimbeley/Boss and some others had been productive my man Reggie would have found a way to keep them on the rooster and it has nothing to do with what Al Davis did many yesterdays ago...It has to do with the "Now" and their last opportunity to produce!!!
PantyRaider...Guess That Deflates Your "HateTrip"s!!!...LoL!!!!/_
Just provoking all that "HateMail" Baby!!!
Here it comes!!!
Troll, nancy, troll....
JONES
Oh, now Reggie is "your man?" That's rich! Trashing him one day, loving him the next?
Blogger PantyRaider said....
"But now you bastards are all about Allen who to date has done exactly squat besides hiring a weak ass coaching staff of newbies -n- retreads...!"
Now that's whacked!
NYRaider over and out!
"my man Reggie"
You have a very strange way of showing you support for Reggie! I guess since you only trash him every other comment, it is ok? Nope, Raider-Hater.
"Bottom line if players like Routt/Wimbeley/Boss and some others had been productive my man Reggie would have found a way to keep them on the rooster and it has nothing to do with what Al Davis did many yesterdays ago."
Q: Who signed these players to out of whack contracts, jerk-off?
PR... the thing that drove me crazy about the IAAFers was the complete lack of BALANCE, and that is what I am seeing from you right now... which makes you no better.
St. McKenzie does deserve some criticisms for some of his decisions... but then I understand them too. He chose a greenhorn HC because he almost certainly blew his doors off in the interview process and it was obvious he was going to be a rising star in the coaching field. I have no problem with that. My problem was who he chose as his OC... but I understand that too, because as a greenhorn, he had limited contacts with coaches.
I was also upset because he let my man Chaz go for 500k when we STILL need a possession slot receiver. I asked Cork about this, and he said it was simply time for both to part ways.
I can except that too.
Other than that, he is basically doing the best he can with the cards he has been dealt. He has to look out for the future, while also balancing a competitive team for this year. His boss might might be happy if the team starts off 0-4 and there are empty stadiums for the rest of the year.
We should be looking at these things in BALANCE... do you not agree?? I am confused by your animosity here lately...
Nothing backhanded in that post, hey gary? And you sound so sincere, almost like you meant it?
JONES
Gary...
Just let the confusion go Bro it's all a huge farce!!!
Just as you questioned some moves so did I early on while wondering "Where's this going Reggie"???
Now that's a very natural reaction in my book when "Some" are pimping turning the tables upside down on what we have come to love -n- cherish!!!
I asked Reggie to show me something and he has but obviously NOT enough yet but none the less the forward steps are taking place...
The rest of it is rubbing those "IAAF"er noses in the reality that what they were pimping as total change has instead become relativity the same old same old as Reggie brings in "Newbie -n- Retread Coaches" and "JailBird-n-injured Players" much the same as Al Davis did...That which they Scorned they now Celibate all in the name of "It wasn't Al doing it"!!!
Look at the new "1st/2nd rd picks who failed to materialize" now on our roster added by Marc-n-Reggie!!!...Now tell me that doesn't have Al's name all over it!!!
Now also the "JailBird" "CB" from "GB"!!!
Palmer who was the "Reject" that couldn't get along with his former team...Now if that ain't Al's style than what the hell was???
A "HC" without much legitimate experience at a higher level...Only 1 yr @ "DC" and tell me that ain't in the shadow of Al Davis???
And a coaching staff of 1st time NFL'ers -n- 1st time primary assistance along with Retreads who were previously hired by Al himself!!!...Now no way that's NOT in the image of Al Davis!!!
Than lets look at the so called complete restructuring of the Front Office...Whoops!!!...That hasn't happened now has it...In fact what has been done is to follow some of the same positions that Al himself had with a few additions....NO MASS CLEANING!!!!
Than there's the issue of "Draft Pick" and as I recall our 1st rd pick and next year's #2 was dealt by Marc in mirror image of his father!!!
So you see Gary all I'm doing is rubbing their collective noses in what they were pimping and showing that "Imbalance" which is to say the "LIE"...Exposed!!!
I have also posted that I'm NOT the one crying over the past $$$$'s nor do I cry over it today!!!...I was down with all those trades and still am...I'm NOT crying over the lost draft picks either...But that's never copied forward when the "IAAF"ers are trying to save face!!!
I do however continue to question that coaching staff and the "ZBS" transition as well as the "D"s transition to a Hybrid or 3-4???...Will it work...How long will it take to all come together???...Can we now pimp ourselves as being on the cuff of Championship like we have been the past 2 seasons???...How/Who will we add to field a competitive roster or will we???
These are all very legitimately unanswered questions that are worth asking at this point in time!!!
PantyRaider....Reggie Was -n- Is Still My Man!!!!/_
That entire post is a farce and exposes the fraud....
PR said: “Now that's a very natural reaction in my book when "Some" are pimping turning the tables upside down on what we have come to love -n- cherish!!!”
NYR: You embrace losing; we will cherish doing things right and winning.
PR: I asked Reggie to show me something and he has but obviously NOT enough yet but none the less the forward steps are taking place...
NYR: The 10 steps backwards theory. What a joke!
PR: The rest of it is rubbing those "IAAF"er noses in the reality that what they were pimping as total change has instead become relativity the same old same old as Reggie brings in "Newbie -n- Retread Coaches" and "JailBird-n-injured Players" much the same as Al Davis did...That which they Scorned they now Celibate all in the name of "It wasn't Al doing it"!!!
NYR: Besides your backtracking excuses for bashing the “new” Raiders, your assessment that the new regime is like the old regime couldn’t be further from the truth. McKenzie is an in-your-face GM... and essentially leaves zero possibility of another Kiffin-gate or Cable-gate, during which the communication between GM and HC deteriorated to nonexistence.
Did you not notice the doors of Alameda suddenly opened when Mark and Reggie took over? It’s like a huge weight was lifted off the shoulders of the organization.
PR: Look at the new "1st/2nd rd picks who failed to materialize" now on our roster added by Marc-n-Reggie!!!...Now tell me that doesn't have Al's name all over it!!!
NYR: Huh? WTF are you babbling about here?
PR: Now also the "JailBird" "CB" from "GB"!!!
NYR: Jailbird? You have no clue. Based on your rages and belligerent here, I would guess that you have been guilty of both Brandon Underwood’s alleged infractions at one or more times in your life. He who lives in glass house....
You are officially on record as trashing Underwood. Please don’t call him “your boy” later.
-to be continued-
Response Part II
PR: Palmer who was the "Reject" that couldn't get along with his former team...Now if that ain't Al's style than what the hell was???
NYR: Palmer was a reject? That’s rich! You hated Campbell, now you hate Palmer. It’s on record! No calling him “your boy” later.
PR: A "HC" without much legitimate experience at a higher level...Only 1 yr @ "DC" and tell me that ain't in the shadow of Al Davis???
NYR: No. This was your take on Allen: “Allen who to date has done exactly squat besides hiring a weak ass coaching staff of newbies -n- retreads.”
You see, bashing the Raiders has become your style.
PR: And a coaching staff of 1st time NFL'ers -n- 1st time primary assistance along with Retreads who were previously hired by Al himself!!!...Now no way that's NOT in the image of Al Davis!!!
NYR: So Wiz is a retread? Saunders was demoted, and so was Willie Brown. There is nothing Al Davis about it!
PR: Than lets look at the so called complete restructuring of the Front Office...Whoops!!!...That hasn't happened now has it...In fact what has been done is to follow some of the same positions that Al himself had with a few additions....NO MASS CLEANING!!!!
NYR: Herrera leaving (then accepting a lesser role) isn’t change? McKenzie’s timetable to redo the scouting dept starts right after the draft. The organizational cleaning is just beginning.
PR: Than there's the issue of "Draft Pick" and as I recall our 1st rd pick and next year's #2 was dealt by Marc in mirror image of his father!!!
NYR: Funny how you have been trashing this trade, now you seem to embrace it. Essentially, as long as it appears in AL’s image you will embrace it.... and it has nothing to do with performance or winning!
PR: So you see Gary all I'm doing is rubbing their collective noses in what they were pimping and showing that "Imbalance" which is to say the "LIE"...Exposed!!!
NYR: See, Gary, it ALL makes perfect sense now. PantyRaider is a fraud! It’s NEVER been about winning; it’s only about AL... and there are no boundaries when it comes to defending the faith.
P.S. How are the Broncos doing today, PR?
Ok... Time-Out!
I posted not long ago about missing the "intelligent analyses and comments" on this blog... that was because their seemed to be a lack of comments on the rash of changes happening in Raiderville, and I wanted to know what other die-hards were thinking re those changes...
Stepping out here again, and I know I'll get shot down for it but...
Panty & nyraider... it's not only hard to read your posts because of all the insults you guys hurl at each other, it's really hard to follow, going over and over who was right about this and who said what about that! and what with the "liar and hater" labels thrown around so freely the 'chat' seems about anything BUT our team and their future.
Personally I don't understand the need to be the first to predict the fall of Hue, the death of AD, the release of Wimbley etc... I just want the new coaches and team when it's settled to win and keep on winning... no more watching the game in the last few mins and knowing that we will blow the lead and lose, yet hoping and hoping... it's sickening and I'm just relieved that we haven't made a slight course adjustment we're changing vehicles, it's a new ride!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!
Awesome NYR, you are nailing her to the wall. Nancy is DONE.
JONES
Bazjoz,
I'm excited with the season coming up. Offensively, not much has changed, with the exception of losing Chaz's injury and Satele's inconsistency. Bush was a huge loss for us, only because we have to find someone to help McFadden carry the load. I'm hoping for Cedric Benson, or a RB like him that can bang the ball. I also think we are one good O-Lineman away, but there are some unproven players in that lineup that may swing it to our favor.
Defensively, we still need an OLB. We will see how the DB's play out, but we have definitely received an upgrade from Routt and Johnson inconsistency.
It's funny how the complaint is we are getting away from Al Davis style football. In all honesty, most teams play Al Davis style football of speed and power (Giants, Packers, Ravens, and even the Patriots). The true difference is where the speed and power are utilized. Al was big on speed at the CB/DB area on defense, and in the WR position offensively. The power came at the LB and RB positions, respectively.
Today, the focus on speed is at the OLB position (while still focused on the CB/DBs).
Offensively it is still at WR, but there is an uncanny focus of speed and power at the RB position.
Power is focused on the lines on both sides of the ball, and at MLB. That is how you stuff the run. That is why it is easier for teams to run on the outside; unless the line and MLB breaks into the backfield.
The Raiders are heading to match this philosophy, and I am eager to see it produced on the field; and put more "W"s in our column. Looking forward to the team hoisting the Lombardi again.
JUST WIN, BABY!
@Raider Nate 75
Now that's what I'm talking about...
Thoughtful, Informed Analysis.
Thank you... and...
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
Nate....Mr.Davis football was not the same as the top teams in the league. Mr.Davis' Defense was one of basic design. Back in the day, when talent on teams was so unequal as compared to today, Raider Defenses could just overwhelm with talent in a basic (in todays standards) Defense. Today, with most teams so close in talent, coaching and design of Defense is what makes the difference. This is where the Raiders and Mr.Davis were behind the 8 ball. The basic structure of the Defense was the downfall of it. It's why year after year, didn't matter who the players were, it was the same problems. Unable to stop the run, giving up big plays, lack of turnovers etc.
Offensively, the coaching was never what it should have been because of the structure Mr.Davis had in place. The HC actually being the OC and usually low in quality and under the eye of Mr.Davis... That is all about to change, the Raiders are moving into today's format and the team will be on an equal playing level with the rest of the league. I'M IN...bring it Coach Allen!
JONES
Raiders | Reggie McKenzie happy with offseason
Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:25:02 -0700
Despite having little room under the salary cap to operate, Oakland Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie said he has been happy with the moves the team has made this offseason. "A little bit better (than expected), because we were able to knock out a couple of areas we felt we wanted to upgrade, and fill in or solidify," McKenzie said. "We felt like the O-line as a group, we solidified big time by getting the two veterans back and the coaching staff would like to see Wiz (Stefen Wisniewski) move inside, see what he can do. They feel pretty good about that."
Well than it appears that the "ZBS" is well on it's way back and Wiz II will now play "C" in it...Reggie and the coaches seem happy with this unit so I'm eager to see what it can do while I continue to "Question" how long this transition takes and how effective it will be in the early half of this season???
As previously noted considering our very tough schedule and the vast improvements made by our competition in the AFCW a slow start that puts us behind will prolley be very difficult to overcome???...In other words being 4-n-4 at the half way point prolley means we miss the "PO"s again this season!!!!
God forbid if it's any worse than that!!!
PantyRaider...Just The Simple Reality!!!/_
RaderNate75...
True That be Bro!!!
bazjoz...
Perhaps that new ride your looking for isn't what your expecting to see??...
The driver is an old school Raider who got his training wheels under hard core old school Raiders like Tom Flores and Ron Wolf so don't expect him to forget how to drive Raider Style!!!...
Old School is in his roots!!!
And that's the whole damn point!!!...Marc is his father's son and Reggie is Marc's father's Clone so why the hell would you expect than new ride to be so damn different than the old ride???
I'm just enjoying all the little parallels with the obvious new mixed in as Marc -n- Reggie feel their own way around the same course Raider Style....Our Identity!!!...
Obviously they add their own variations to the are of driving while never forgetting what got them here...
"Old School Raider Football"!!!
NYR"....
Your such a childish little imbecile as you throw your shit in the air to see what sticks!!!
NOTHING!!!...It just falls back in your own damn face!!!...LoL!!!
PantyRaider....Back To Pimping/Questioning -n- Supporting My Man Reggie!!!/_
Q: On whether the Raiders will play a 4-3 or 3-4:
Allen: No, we haven’t decided any of that yet. We’re still going through the process of acquiring talent, looking into who we’re going to have on the team next year. Once we get through the draft, we’ll have a better feel what we want to do there.
Well now that sounds rather logical and adaptive to what the final roster looks like...Imagine That!!!
WoW!!...Now This Is "Old School Raider"!!!
"I'm gonna use the draft to make sure we draft the best available player. And if it's at a position we're strong at, so be it. If we feel like this is the best guy... it's the difference between adding solid starters and difference makers. If I have a chance to add a difference maker, we're gonna get him."
As far as needs:
"There's some good linebackers. Is it deep? I wouldn't say that but there are some good linebackers in this draft."
"I've done this for quite some time. This is my show now so it's gonna be fun."
Yes my man!!...It's going to be fun!!!
PantyRaider....That's Shit In Your Eye!!!/_
Nice "Side Step" Allan and kinda classy too!!!
Q: With your former team in the news, and former boss (Sean Payton) and defensive coordinator (Gregg Williams), what light if any can you shed on this and what have been people talking about in terms of bounties and what’s going on with the Saints and the severe penalties they face?
Allen: I think first and foremost, I think we gotta undersand that our job as employees of the NFL is to protect the integrity of the game. I think commissioner Goodell made that clearly obvious when he addressed the whole group this morning. I think that’s been something that’s been critical. Player safety, obviously, is at the forefront of the NFL. In general, I feel badly for everybody that’s been involved with the whole situation. It’s kind of an unfortunate situation, but the commissioner has made it clear that those type of practices are not acceptable and I support his decisions and what he decided to do from a punishment standpoint.
Q: Physical play prevalent in all game plans, who do you address that with your team without crossing the line?
Allen: I think you have to always be forthright with your team and be kind of one step ahead of everything. I think you can play this game in a physical manner without the intent to injure and I think that’s really at the end of the day what the NFL is trying to accomplish.
PR: Funny how you've suddenly embraced the "new" Raiders. I guess it's because you've taken a new approach:
PR said: "Reggie is Marc's father's Clone."
That's funny! I see Reggie as the exact opposite of AL in so many ways.
AL's org had no structure. Reggie is all about structure.
AL's signed high-priced players, while Reggie looks for relative bargains.
AL was all about speed and athleticism, while Reggie has made it quite clear that football acumen comes first.
AL mostly hired his own coaching staff (and retained coaches he wanted), while Reggie gave that authority to his HC.
I could keep going all day! Your belief that AL and Reggie are parallel is laughable!
But, hey, keep up the good work.
Cheers!
Nancy is just playing a game, it calls it a "man's game", I call it a game for children or someone with a mental problem. How does Nancy get her kicks?
By the way NYR, good job again, for exposing the strange little girl (Nancy/Jethro).
JONES
Panty... you're not getting my point...
I'm all in with the new organization, and if they want to recycle a piece here or there, I don't care... I'm not driving this new ride and besides I think it's way too early to judge any moves. Reading both Reggie's interview and DA's today, I didn't get one negative vibe, just two competent enthusiastic guys going about rebuilding with an open mind, lots of film, very little cap room; and with a desire to put in place a solid workable structure... sounds good to me!
I ain't looking in that rear view mirror, it's all history now as is Al Davis' time... and that's not a put down of Raider history, but I want new victories new championships; the last decade hurt bad and for me this is the most hopeful I've been since Gruden took us on that ride...
Put it this way, I was pissed when we got Gannon, couldn't see past my loathing of KC at the time... shows you how much I knew, which is pretty much my point... Just a fan baby!
GO RAIDERS!!!
Jones - that last one was like shooting fish in a barrel (I'm just happy you guys gave me first crack at it). The only thing I see that McKenzie and AL have in common is the title of GM. Aside from that, the connections start to get really fuzzy and bordering make believe.
Honestly, it's hard to believe somebody who is such a fan of the man knows so little about him.
We've been here for years analyzing and discussing tendencies (good and bad), but it has fallen on deaf ears.... and an absolute refusal to acknowledge facts and accept truth.
The new era is upon us.
Cheers!
NYR...guess they call it "blinded by love" Nancy was in love...either that or Jethro is just a troll.
It's been a long time coming, NYR, we can finally see an Org that puts the team in a position to win, week in and week out. I used to feel bad for the players, the Org was so disjointed and dysfunctioned that by the time they ran onto the field, it was like they were already 7 points down.
Last 2 years, the players made 8-8 with the 'disjointed method'. Now when they run onto the field, they will no longer be at a disadvantage, other than the refs or maybe that will change too.
No longer hampered by an outdated defensive scheme, no longer hampered by playing players because they are favorites of the Owner. A cohesive unit, all on the same page, well coached and prepared...it's going to be fun to watch. I really haven't felt excitement like I am for this coming season, since Gruden. That's a long time ago. Yup, it is a new time and Reggie exudes confidence, Allen is well thought of around the league...I feel it and we can see it, why would any Raider fan be pissed? Unless they are a troll....
JONES
By the way, check out the 'twitter' session with Corkran. Someone kept asking him about Pryor, rewording his tweets asking why 'Cork' didn't think Pryor was 2nd string material. It looks kind of like a 'Nancy stalking'. Aliases, tries to change 'styles' to make it look different...I wouldn't put it past her.
JONES
It was interesting with Corkran when asked about whether he would take Kiffin or Hue as HC...he said Kiffin in a landslide. Now there is some debating material, who would you pick?
JONES
When you read the recent interviews of Allen and McKenzie, there is a respectful tone, positive vibe, humbleness, and sincere thought process that comes across.
Both men are straight-shooters who give thoughtful yet to the point responses.
Both men exude a command and confidence in their abilities to perform their tasks
Both men are genuinely grateful and enthusiastic about their current opportunity with the Raiders.
Both men make ZERO excuses and are completely accountable for the hand they were dealt upon signing.
If anything, both men seem to relish the chance to be true leaders, difference-makers, and to take on the challenges of a hyper-competitive league.
Lastly, both men are DEFINITELY on the same page with executing a well thought out plan but being FLEXIBLE to adjust the plan to reflect the dynamic nature of the business. I have no doubts whatsoever that Allen and McKenzie communicate on a daily basis and have already formed a wonderful working relationship and partnership.
I'm with you Jones ... I feel it, can see it, hear it and the new era is Minty Fresh.
NYR,
Other big differences in the Al Davis era and the new era;
More open, regular communication with the fans and media
Less secretive, less paranoia, and less confrontation
Jack..the points you mention with dealing with the press and fans is a sure sign of less dysfunction.
Seems that we are still digesting the change, we as Raider fans have NEVER experienced it before. The team has been run the same way since the 70's, this is new territory for all of us. Maybe that's why some Raider fans need a blanky and some say "bring it on". Some are just afraid of change, or, they are just a troll...
JONES
I'll start my own poll...Kiffin...or....Huey?
1 vote for Kiffin
JONES
"SpyJack"!!!
"More open, regular communication with the fans and media
Less secretive, less paranoia, and less confrontation"
Wow!!...Are you really that damn dense!!!
""More open, regular communication with the fans" began during last season's camp as the doors became upon for the 1st time to the fans and some of my Raider Bros were even granted "Midia Passes" as net reporters just as I posted right here....
As for the Media yes there's more open communication there and it will prolley continue so long as things are being reported in a respectful manner....If/When that ends the doors will prolley become shut again or restricted to some point???...But may I remind you fantasy fools that under Gruden there was allot of communication threw those "Mediot"s as well as with the fans and that's when the "Raider Rallies" got started...I know because I was always there in Jack London Square!!!
"Less secretive, less paranoia, and less confrontation"
LoL!!...It's been how many weeks and your already trying to post history on this???...The adversity hasn't even started yet so how the hell could you know???...
""DA" took a very good "Side Step" of the 1st round of questioning and that "Mediot" allowed for that...I liked what I saw yes...But this is hardly enough sample size to pimp "less paranoia, and less confrontation" Bull Shit!!!
"NYR"...
Your "HateTrip" continues to shine threw!!!...You just can't hide from it Baby!!!...It's what defines you!!!
PantyRaider....Reach Out With Your Hatred And Let The Anger Flow From You....Your Exposure Will Be Complete!!!!!/_
LoL!!!
...I think Jones and Panty should have a radio show. Rockem Sockem Roommates.
I think OTB should go back to the patriots site, or chargers, or tebow, whatever...nothing worse than frauds, otb
JONES
Harrgh de harr harrrgh! Can't believe all the commotion. I am sure the raiders are going to be so hard to predict this year that we are probably ALL wrong. Enjoy! (I still say we sweep up the West... If you don't think it's possible, well, time will tell of course but I like the JediMidTrickery that's going on... no film to rely on from our departed FA's. Thank you Mr. Gannon. The Death (wish) Star that Al built (and allowed to rust) is being restored. Patience, fellers, I smell an ERA coming on. Soon. Soon.
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