Revisionism or Realism?
Here's some gasoline on the fire that you may have missed...
In this piece by Steve Corkran, Jared Veldheer has this to say about his departure from the Raiders: "The whole time, the understanding was that something was going to happen, there was something that was going to be done," Veldheer said. "But then nothing ended up happening. There wasn't any back and forth that kind of let me know where I stood."
Here's more:
As they prepare to play the 49ers on Sunday, Carson Palmer, Jared Veldheer and Matt Shaughnessy are far away from the disaster they believe began with the dismissal of Hue Jackson as coach.
"Guys loved playing for Hue," Palmer said. "Hue was a great head coach. Unfortunately, they decided that it was time for him to go, and a number of our guys that had been there awhile."
However, it's worth reminding Palmer and the others that if they loved playing for Hue so much, why did they go out with such a whimper in 2011, losing four out of five to close the season? On that note, Just Blog Baby has this rebuttal to all of the Hue love.
There are really two points to discuss in Corkran's piece. The first is whether or not it was a mistake to fire Hue Jackson. I do believe that the players liked and responded to him on some level, but he really prepared his own walking papers at the end of 2011 with all of his blather and power grabbing. It would have been interesting if he'd checked his ego and stuck around, I doubt it could have been worse than what we've got with Dennis Allen, and it might have been much better. But it's all water under the bridge.
The other point is the one made by Veldheer, and it's more troubling and relevant to our current season. I suspect that there's some fire to that smoke. We lost Veldheer, Jennings and Houston in fairly rapid succession during free agency. To me, that suggests some sort of operational or communication shortcoming, as Veldheer suggested.
If you are trying to figure out how this team might possibly be worse than last year's edition (and so far, it's looking that way), then our free agency losses are probably a good place to start.
What do you think?
In this piece by Steve Corkran, Jared Veldheer has this to say about his departure from the Raiders: "The whole time, the understanding was that something was going to happen, there was something that was going to be done," Veldheer said. "But then nothing ended up happening. There wasn't any back and forth that kind of let me know where I stood."
Here's more:
As they prepare to play the 49ers on Sunday, Carson Palmer, Jared Veldheer and Matt Shaughnessy are far away from the disaster they believe began with the dismissal of Hue Jackson as coach.
"Guys loved playing for Hue," Palmer said. "Hue was a great head coach. Unfortunately, they decided that it was time for him to go, and a number of our guys that had been there awhile."
However, it's worth reminding Palmer and the others that if they loved playing for Hue so much, why did they go out with such a whimper in 2011, losing four out of five to close the season? On that note, Just Blog Baby has this rebuttal to all of the Hue love.
There are really two points to discuss in Corkran's piece. The first is whether or not it was a mistake to fire Hue Jackson. I do believe that the players liked and responded to him on some level, but he really prepared his own walking papers at the end of 2011 with all of his blather and power grabbing. It would have been interesting if he'd checked his ego and stuck around, I doubt it could have been worse than what we've got with Dennis Allen, and it might have been much better. But it's all water under the bridge.
The other point is the one made by Veldheer, and it's more troubling and relevant to our current season. I suspect that there's some fire to that smoke. We lost Veldheer, Jennings and Houston in fairly rapid succession during free agency. To me, that suggests some sort of operational or communication shortcoming, as Veldheer suggested.
If you are trying to figure out how this team might possibly be worse than last year's edition (and so far, it's looking that way), then our free agency losses are probably a good place to start.
What do you think?
posted by Raider Take at 11:58 AM
4 Comments:
Tinfoil here:
I don't think you can blame all of 2011's collapse on Hue.
We blew a huge 4th quarter lead to Detroit when we couldn't stop their deep passing game.
We also absolutely sucked defensively v Chargers in 16th game with playoffs on line.
Our defense sucked all year. 35 second half points to Ryan Fitzpatric. Barely held on the beat Houston and Denver.
Hue did not coach D at the time. And his offense was the best we've had since Gannon's days.
But, Hue was a power-hungry coach who overstepped his responsibilities all year long. I'm not sure any new GM would want him around as HC.
That being said, RM and DA have been utter dissapointments. I am actually embarassed being a Raiders fan this year.
I'll record the game. If we get luckier than hell, then I'll watch. If not, then I delete.
Matt Schaub has been ruled out, for Sundays game vs Pats.
I wonder if Schaub is going to be traded with the deal deadline not to far off.
And you know Reggie just loves to trade guys for 7th round draft picks.
Most consecutive seasons without a winning record:
20 seasons; New Orleans Saints: 1967-1986
In the modern era of football (free agency!), the Raiders streak of non-winning seasons is unmatched.
Over a decade of top ten draft picks and nothing to show for it. Raiders have made it their business to squander and screw up the resources the league provides to facilitate parity among its franchises. In other words, it’s impossible to be this bad for this long.
It may well boil down to AL not having a person or plan in place for his succession.
Today’s game boils down to coaches and players regaining a modicum of integrity and self-respect for the incompetence they displayed in their first two games.
Gameday take is up.
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