Titans Gameday Thread
Time to park the Clown Car and get back on track. Brace yourself for the Derrick Henry show. This is such a pivotal game and the Raiders can't afford to get run over. EVERYBODY needs to step up their game today. GO RAIDERS!
posted by Raider Take at 10:11 AM
43 Comments:
Frustrating, same thing year after year. No D, poor redzone, iffy coaching. It's hard to stay invested.
Team looks deflated, no emotion, no effort. Gruden had this team going in the right direction, now, it's back to garbage ball.
This new regime is looking bad, real bad. This team is going nowhere and will probably get blown up unless Mark fires this new regime and finally hires a true regime that can get the job done.
But, as we know, it seems the Raiders cannot attract top quality coaching, had to pay Gruden, who was out of the game for 10 years, an outrageous amount of money to come back.
Sad to see and the momentum that was built up during Gruden's reign, is all gone, burnt and now we see a poorly coached team and a deflated roster that has little chemistry. WHAT A DISASTER.
Raiders aren't good enough. Carr is erratic. Davante Adams is a top 3 WR talent in the NFL and he's hardly looked at on crucial downs. I'd say it may be because he's blanketed, but Carr obviously has no problem throwing to blanketed receivers, so if you're gonna do that, why not give Davante more chances?
To Raider Take, part II
Gruden II?: Gruden and Mayock really ruined this team, the game passed them by. They were dysfunctional and didn't have it anymore. Mayock was never a real GM and had no business being 1. Gruden was a sports announcer, not a real HC, he was in the past like Al.
Wow! Raidernation what a fan base! you waited for years for Gruden's return and now he's the worst thing since Al?
I thought ANY modern guy was good enough as long as it wasn't Al? So that means 1 of these 3 regimes should have more than 2 winning seasons. Gruden was tutored by Al not Bellichick or the Rooney's. He wasn't
really happy with the NFL/ Reggie's control of Raiders' front office. He didn't draft those guys and he would've made bolder draft picks and tried to get star free agents. He wanted to keep some kind of old Raiders' so IMO I think they didn't let him draft everybody he planned to.
Gruden II was the best of the 3 new regimes: he was tutored by Al, he studied the game at ESPN, he worked with other good teams like the 49ers.
* So Rich Bisscia became a better HC than Gruden? Really Raider Take?! Over a 3 month period? Rich came from the Cowboys and helped special teams become good again. But he wasn't looked at as a HC but a good assistant. You've made him a hot name that could get a HC job or maybe good as Gruden as a HC. Maybe, but he'll have to show it and that may take a long time and no team was looking to talk to him about a HC job.
Gruden II wasn't elite?: Wow! I thought he was the greatest hire since Bellichick! Maybe he wasn't elite but he was more than enough to help this team. He was already a good OC and he does know QBs'.
Gruden didn't have complete control of the Raiders. He had say in some of the draft and free agency but really wasn't able to do everything he planned to do:
1. he didn't draft most of the players.
2. he had hardly any control of the salary cap.
3. he could hire assistants and he did bring some that played or coached in TB. But no-way was he to hire ANYBODY close to Al.
* It was MD who hired Gruden?: Maybe he did, he knew MD but he didn't hang around the game much. He seemed to want to have ex-Raiders or Raider looking guys(Del Rio). He seems to be looking at people he heard of not some deep thinking moves to find NEW and different directions. Was it MD or the NFL hiring ex-Raiders to keep us buying tickets, merchandise and watching games on t.v.?
Raiders gave Gruden a ridiculous contract?: The big contract was the owners' idea, not MD's. It was to buy Gruden's loyalty.
* The draft, was it that disgraceful? You're the 1s' who thought Al's players were big, fast busts with attitude problems- well I thought you wanted great players? I thought a modern NFL front office would build us a winner? The new regimes had 1 outstanding draft and a few good 1s'- Yet you STILL feel they are a far better system than Al's.
Mayock had to go?: I thought ANYBODY was a better choice than Al? You thought it was a great idea to make an NFL draft expert a GM.
What's funny is Al didn't screw up but maybe 2 top picks during that slump- maybe, I see no more than 3 mediocre picks- maybe. But you seem to feel Al was 1 of the worst at finding talent during his last years.
So, 1st it was Al dysfunction, then it was Reggie's bad moves, then it was Gruden's return- was an ex-Raider, loved us and knew how to coach QBs'. Now he's a racist and-, who can come back after 10 years and coach? Maybe he didn't know what he was doing and was overrated with TB! He never really did much(Bucs) and it was Al who really built those winning '00 teams. Wow fans! you sure can turn on your heroes and BTW...do you really think they were going to let him control this team?
Gruden was hired to keep us happy and buying tickets/ merchandise. He wasn't hired to return us to old glory.
it's very surprising the lack of chemistry between Carr and Adams. And what has happened to Waller? He was dominant and now he looks avg.
The O is not looking like a well oiled machine, that is for sure.
The D comes around in the 2nd halves of games, but it's too late by then. It's almost like they don't come into the game with a gameplan, but instead, come into a game with a wait and see to what they are going to do to counter what the other team is doing. Again, by the time they figure it out, it's too late.
Really don't like what I see on the field, it looks so disjointed and mismanaged. Carr doesn't look like the Carr we saw under Gruden, it's like he can't figure out where he needs to go with the ball most of the time, that used to be one of his strengths. Chemistry between Carr and the HC is not the same as it was under Gruden. Another season blown and it's only been 3 games.
Disappointing!
Raiders looked flat for much of the game. Not a fan of the trick plays and the Raiders have yet to execute an end-around that didn't lose yards.
Whatever magic Carr and Waller had, seems to be gone. Mack Hollins has become the only reliable WR. There is still no balance in the offense. Cole has a ridiculous drop in the end zone.
How many plays did the Raiders miss goal-to-go at the end of the game before Hollins caught the TD? At least 8 straight plays. What a mess. The 2-pt conversion had little chance of being successful.
The Raiders defense wasn't any better. They played way too soft in the 1st half, conceding first downs with deep coverage. I mean, WTF is Patrick Graham thinking? It came together when they played more aggressively. Had they played that way early in the game, who knows.
Failures: Offensive line, play-calling on both sides of the ball, execution, Derek Carr, specifically. It's all a mess.
Maybe disappointing isn't strong enough. I really thought these coaches had their shit together. I can't make excuses for them. They have to be better than this.
Geez! Where's Rich Bisaccia, Greg Olsen and Gus Bradley when you need them.
This is brutal. Sandy
Let's see the glass as half full ! yes, these losses are hard to take, but really, with a break here and there, Raiders could be 2-1.
With 17 game schedule, 0-3 is really like 0-2, and i will not give up on season at this rate.
Of course, next weeks game is a must win. Raiders have to put it all together, offense, The D, and ST, and solid coaching too.
Call me crazy, but i can see a pretty good football team in all this mess. i think once this team gets a win under it's belt, they will be a different team going forward.
This is nuts. I didn't get to see the game yesterday, but watched the highlights. The score didn't indicate the lack of effort, but the highlights did. I'm really disappointed right now. I feel like throwing in the towel on this team; as they have seemed to throw in the towel on the fans. Been waiting a long time for this ship to be righted, and it keeps breaking itself apart. Discouraging to watch, not sure I can invest much more of my time and money. Sad days.
The players seem uncomfortable with playcalling on both sides of the ball. The D demonstrated its ability to play aggressively in the 2nd half but not before Graham's soft coverage allowed TN to score at will in the first half. Take a look at the cushion DBs were giving WRs in the first half, when the Raiders' defense was conceding first downs.
The O-line thing has reached another level of uncertainty. Raiders have played three games and fielded three different lines.
Media reported Mark Davis and Josh McDaniels had closed door meeting after the game. I doubt Davis wants to call plays, but he has to be thinking his team does not look as good as its roster of players, especially, after signing all those new contracts. That would be a fair assessment, IMO.
NYR, i think part of problem is that Raiders, and Carr, are starting over once again. New HC, new DC, bunch of new players.
like it or not, it does take time for it all to gel together. now maybe it never will, but i think there's to much talent on this roster for it not to come together. i would be very surprised if it didn't.
Raiders can get back into fight for the west division. Chefs, and Dolts hit a snag, Donks can't seem to score much. Raiders have 5 games left within division. They just have to step on the field and get it done !
Ghost Ship, I appreciate the optimism and I agree the Raiders have some very talented players throughout the roster. That being said we wake up today and they are the only winless team in the NFL. You can say they are about 6 plays away from being 3-0 and lost by a combined 16 points. However they have not scored more than 25 in a game. Finally, they lost to the Titans and Arizona two mediocre to bad teams that is whay worries me.
A new system takes time to jell and the oline is ridiculously bad. However, as I worried during the preseason and after the Charges game I don't think McDaniel (not running the ball at critical times see Arizona OT or providing leadership) or Ziegler (the negligence of not addressing the o-line and overpaying for Chandler Jones) have done a godd job so far.
I really wanted David Shaw or Harbaugh. As I have said Gruden may have been average at personell but the man knew how to coach and get the best from Carr. The Raiders are probably looking at 1-4 at best going into the bye. Not sure where we go from there.
I really hope they can beat the Broncos next week and get some positive vibes going.
Sandy
I was thinking similarly to Ghost Ship last night, how each game has been close with a clear opportunity to win in the last minutes. We could easily be 1-2 with just another play here or there.
At the same time, this team was supposed to take a leap forward, and that clearly hasn't happened. They seen disjointed and inconsistent. Carr looks middling and uncertain. The defense can't seem to put it together for more than a half at a time. Adams has 189 yards receiving after three games.
The flip side perspective of the glass half full is that this is a highly talented team that can still keep things close while playing poorly. Which begs the question: why is this highly talented team playing poorly?
Raiders pulled off 6 close games last year, but 0-3 so far this year. Sometimes it's how the ball bounces when you play them all close.
Yet with all the talent on offense, the Raiders are still kicking FGs. And watching them fail on ~ 8 straight plays in the red zone before finally scoring a TD probably tells us that McDaniels has not solved the Raiders red zone woes. It doesn't help that receivers are dropping passes (Waller! Cole!). And the long pass to Waller down field that sailed over his head should have been a pitch-n-catch play for Carr and Waller. Maybe the ugliest play call yesterday was the fleaflicker with a lateral across the field from Jacobs to Carr then to Adams. Sure, it gained yards but please don't run it again.
So far, coaching and playcalling have been disappointing. Not sure there's any other way to see it.
NY,
Football 101 you need to run the ball in the red zone. Think back to 2016 Murray had like 12 eushing tds and Olwaze had a few , Deandre Washington etc. Last year succes Barber and Jacobs the 4 game winning streak was predicated on Jacobs running the ball. Last game last year to make the playoffs Jacobs dominated. The surest way to get the kinks out of a new system, limit turnovers and protect a terrible offensive line is to run the ball.
Sandy
Sandy, I agree Jacobs was a big part of the comeback wins last year. Some of his biggest runs of the season happened at the end of games. Based on the last three weeks, we have to wonder if the coaches even watched that film.
Regardless, McDaniels was supposed to be the red zone guy. I think we all got that memo.
Watching other teams, my own observation of the most successful plays close to the end zone include:
1 - spread the offense formation and run the ball up the middle.
2 - tight formation and send someone out to the flat.
These are bread and butter plays that work for everyone else.
Raiders spread the offense and send everyone into the end zone. It's a hot mess and Carr has like 3 seconds to make a decision before getting leveled. Carr doesn't have time, nor is the O-line good enough for him to read and react.
Btw, I think you said the Cards and Titans were mediocre teams. Titans were 12-5 last year and #1 seed. Cards were 11-6. We knew these teams, plus Chargers and Chiefs would give the Raiders problems early on. What we didn't know was that the Raiders would beat themselves.
Looking at social media today and are the Nation sending a message to Mark.
You think that McDaniels would come to the press conferences and try to steady the sinking ship, all he says is, ya know, the players need to play 60 mins. Ya know, the players need to learn how to win, ya know. Ya know, the team needs to ......by the way some of the players are playing, it's like they have given up already. That is not a good sign and shows the players are already getting tired of the new HC. When players are half assing it, sign of big problems in the room.
Carr looks lost, a new o-line every week. D not ready to start games....all so familiar. It's amazing that the Raiders have any fans left, talk about loyal fans. Gruden was a Raider, McDaniels isn't and we need the Raider way, us against everyone else, Gruden had that, McDaniels, is a wet noodle.
Maybe the silver lining is that players remain positive. Crosby, Adams and Waller all sounded positive in their media access. The perception is that they lost three close games and just need to make more plays.
It starts with Denver. There are no easy games!
NY
Titans were 0-2 and looked not great and Arizona is now 1-2. Without Hopkins Arizona is toothless and Titans have taken a step or two back and were banged up coming into the Riader game. Not to metnion did you see Todd Downings play calling in the second half, very predictable the guys is awful.
I hope they get Perryman back for Denver they really miss him against the run. What is wrong with Chandler Jones? Waller seems out of sorts.
I still believe in Carr his long passes to Hollins were beautiful. We all know he does not do well with pressure. If the Raiders had only spent real money on a RT and G I wonder where they would be now. Elumeur stinks, Bars give me a break and Simpson/Cotton are not starting calibre NFL players. Munford lol a 7th round pick. The oline is holding the Raiders back when Carr has time he is money.
Sandy
Sandy
Scary, I agree with everything you said pertaining to the Raiders. In fairness to AZ, they had no trouble dicing up the Raiders defense when it mattered. The Titans, like the Raiders, are off to a slow start but they have the horses to be in a playoff hunt. Wasn't it Todd Downing who replaced Bill Musgrave and cost Jack Del Rio his job with the Raiders. I assume he's gotten better since his rookie OC campaign with Oakland.
Raiders have scored 21.3 ppg vs teams that allowed 31.8 ppg in their other contests (-10.5)
Raiders have allowed 25.7 ppg vs teams that scored 15.7 ppg in their other contests (-10.0)
Sandy
https://twitter.com/notliambeatus/status/1574910099033923584?cxt=HHwWgIC94YGZmtsrAAAA
this guy goes over some film of the last game, he shows Carr is missing open WR's, not just with the ball, but with his eyes too. It's weird.
Wow that video is terrible, obviously Carr is struggling with the new system. The whole team seems discombobulated. Sandy
What I'd like to know is, what happened to coaching to the players strengths? IMO, Carr needs more freedom to run the offense. That's when he's most productive. McDaniels coached Brady. He should know not to micromanage his QB.
Defenses play aggressively against the Raiders because the Raiders lack speed and because the line can't hold a pass rush. Teams double Adams. Waller is struggling and Renfrow is out. Suddenly, Mack Hollins is the top dog. That's far from ideal.
I expected more ball-control offense. Preseason was loaded with runs and screens. They've barely done either in three games. Instead, we get trick plays with blown up end-arounds and insanely stupid cross-field lateral fleaflickers.
When he's on, Carr gets rid of the ball quickly. In three games, he's holding the ball far too long and still not seeing the entire field. In Game 1 he was fixated on Adams. That's been overcorrected.
In hindsight, Carr should have played in every preseason game.
On defense, Graham is equally guilty of not playing to strength. Jones is often pulling back and protecting the edge instead of rushing the QB. Abram plays coverage far too much (5-5 catches against him last week). Even Bradley was smart enough to know Abram cannot cover. Graham admitted the D got better when they played more aggressively. No shit! If he comes back with soft coverage against the Broncos, that's on him.
For the most part, players are playing their asses off, but they need better direction. Can't blame Mark Davis for being pissed off.
When it comes to football play, the players have to stick to their assignments. A lot of our secondary on defense (Abram, Diablo, Webb, Butler) do not stick to their assignments. We also need more QB pressure and push from our DTs. Hankins is not getting it done this year, but neither is Chandler Jones.
Carr is struggling on offense too. Yes, he is holding the ball way too long, and has a hesitancy to throw into double coverage; but Davante will be double covered this year. He is going to have to rely on his accuracy and dart them in. Something he hasn't been comfortable doing in a while.
Raiders need to get back to relying on Jacobs to set up the passing game as well. Jacobs is a beast, and needs to be fed the ball and eat the clock.
These are minor adjustments that need to be made. It's a bad look when 3 games in you are already having a closed door meeting with the owner. JUST WIN, DAMMIT!
Oslovsky is full of crap a bit about Carr purposley noth throwing to Adams. This video by Baldy who I respect shows a different prespective
https://twitter.com/i/status/1574911368859369472
Sandy
Baldy gives a different view and he is right, now, the question is, if they are doubling both Waller and Adams, the coaching needs to take advantage with play calling. There must be plays in the playbook that will exploit a team who wants to do this? Must be more they can do than keep throwing to the one on one coverage? Again, coaching is suspect.
Nate, I disagree about Hankins. He's a run stuffer and continues to do that fairly well. The Raiders get burned by hurry-up offenses that don't allow defensive substitutions. With that said, I've seen Hankins in the backfield more than Jones.
Wrt Adams, he would be freed up more in coverage if Waller was playing like the highest paid TE in football. One blogger wrote that Waller dropped 3 TDs on Sunday. That might be accurate. There was a drop at the one, a deflection INT in the end-zone and a long ball that Waller had in his hand and couldn't bring in. All very catchable balls for Waller.
Carr has been inconsistent but he's not getting much help.
NY,
Teams are not running on us, exception of the Titans. We need a DT that will consistently pressure the QB, and take advantage of Crosby and Chandler being double teamed. Hankins is not that guy, and here recently, has been getting pushed around even on running plays. His overall PFF grade is 46.2, with 3 solo tackles and 4 assists, he has one QB hurry (on Kyler Murray, but he was already running out of the pocket), no QB hits, and no sacks. Not too worry though, Hankins is not the only DT struggling, none of the other DTs has a QB hit, sack, or even a QB hurry.
Andrew Billings has 4 solo tackles and 5 assists, and that is it. Bilal Nichols only has 4 solo tackles, Kendall Vickers has 2 solo tackles, 3 assists, and 1 run stuff for no gain. Matthew Butler has 1 assist. That is it, that is your DT stats. Neil Farrell Jr hasn't played.
Chandler Jones has 4 solo tackles, 2 assists, 4 QB hits, 7 QB hurries, and 1 Tackle for Loss. Don't know what you are seeing that suggest Hankins is in the backfield more than Jones. If that were true, he and Crosby would have more sacks.
These offensive woes are not all on Carr. Renfrow fumbled twice against the Cardinals, Waller has dropped a few go ahead TD's, they are not utilizing the running game as they should, and overall the play calling has been better; but they are inconsistent in the Red Zone. I know that will change, but in order for that to change, they need help on the O-Line, and quit the merry-go-round substitutions. Again, we are seeing the same problems we have seen for the last 2 decades; and these are not difficult things to change.
With that said, I am glad that MD had a closed door meeting with Ziegler and McDaniels; as well as the team having a closed door meeting. With what Carr, Crosby, and Adams had to say recently appears that there are some guys on the team missing meetings, film room, and not giving their all in practice. That is where games are won, and that is where things will change. JUST WIN, DAMMIT!
It's no consolation if they are all doing poorly. Hankins is in there for a reason. Perhaps he's the best of a bad group. I saw what I thought were at least two pressures from Hankins on Sunday. Not bad for a 2-down DT. The Raiders defense pitched a shutout in the 2nd half... after Graham directed them to play more aggressively. Hankins was part of that, so I'm not sure the PFF grade tells the whole story.
IMO, the Raiders have talented players on D and Graham has been holding them back. I think the same could be said about the offense.
Players missing meetings, film room and not practicing hard is big news. I've not heard or read anything about that. Is there an article or presser saying that?
S P E E D!
The media said Raiders relied on speed too much. Maybe but at least the terrible players could catch guys before they miss a tackle.
Just because teams like Pittsburgh, NE and Indy can coach up average guys and not spend a lot on stars but are able to beat any kind of team(fast, power) is cool but there are other teams who feel they like size an
The new NFL owners hire people and try to get them to follow rules
1. keep that salary cap low.
2. don't give out a lot of guaranteed contracts.
3. don't give rookies(except maybe, a QB, OT or DE) a big contract if you can avoid it.
4. don't take much from star FAs' with attitudes and who want big contracts.
That's why the Patriots, Steelers are the model franchises. The Pats have a great coach and planner and the Steelers can find talent close to the Cowboys but they won't pay them a lot and will get rid of them if things get too distracting.
Al was the opposite he wanted big, fast, athletic players. Now, I don't EVER remember him not bringing in modern OCs'/ coaches(Hue, Kiffin, Turner, Gruden). Yet, the claim is he was stuck in the past- how?
If the Raiders were AFC Champions when they went into the slump how did his dysfunction, bad decisions and bad hires cause this in 1 year? Most of the SB roster was still there. So his system got that in 1 year?
What did Al do to ruin his own team? What did other 31 teams do to get so good that the Raiders could hardly beat any of them over a 9 year period?
I seem to remember how mediocre many of these teams were in fact many of the playoff and SB games were really bad.
Many of the teams in the 00s' just couldn't gel or find the talent Oakland, Dallas, Pittsburgh and S.F. had back then- but some went to the playoffs.
Al signed some of the best FAs' in the NFL back then and already had pro bowlers then he drafted some pretty good players.
Now, there were other good and talented teams and some with very good coaching and the high character, tough guys but don't you think the Raiders roster alone should've helped them KEEP winning?
If these other teams could win with less talent and some were really mediocre why couldn't the Raiders? These teams got help from PARITY which helped give them more or better teams lost some coaching/ talent so sometimes, these teams could win. But not the Raiders it seems PARITY didn't help them; and if they were mediocre then shouldn't it have helped them?
Interesting synopsis. Sandy
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/las-vegas-raiders-problems-week-4-2022/
The article that Sandy posted shared a comment from Carr that I read in a different article by Hondo Carpenter (SI Raiders coverage):
After the game, Carr suggested that the Raiders need more precision in practice to improve.
A source agreed with Carr’s assessment but said the issues run much deeper.
“You try your best to do it the right way in practice, and if you don’t do it right in practice, then you can’t expect it to go right in the game. I can be optimistic,” Carr said. “Maxx, [Adams], Darren, everybody can be optimistic, but if not everybody is doing the work or doing the right things in practice, it doesn’t matter how much we hope for. You have got to earn it. But we are going to stay positive already. That’s the kind of people we have in the room.
“I think the execution was not at its best on some days but that’s not the reason,” Carr said. “It’s not like that. I wouldn’t say I am not pleased with it, but my point is you have got the meetings, the practice, the walk-throughs all matter, so if you are on it, on all those things, then you usually go out and you are on your assignments. So for me, I believe in that and that’s what Josh preaches, that it matters.”
Something is not right within the team. There was no talk of players not giving it their all in all aspects of preparation in the past few years. It should not be allowed by the Captains or the coaches, that is totally unacceptable.
Again, it points to a culture that stems from the top on down. If there are players who are not 100% invested, you aren't going to win many games. 3 games in and it's not sounding positive at all. This is on Mark and he has to be the one to straighten it out. Looks like the Raiders are at a crossroads once again.
The Raiders trading for Davante Adams was supposed to cause problems for defenses, not quarterback Derek Carr.
Although opposing defenses are fixated on stopping Adams, he’s also causing a dilemma for his new quarterback — one that Aaron Rodgers was able to effortlessly navigate when he played with the All-Pro receiver. Adams is seeing a lot of double coverage, but you can’t just avoid throwing to your top receiver because of that. How much do you force-feed him the ball, and at what point does that hurt an offense’s efficiency?
Since a strong debut for the Carr-Adams connection in Week 1 — when Adams had 10 catches for 141 yards and a touchdown on 17 targets — the duo has had a difficult time connecting. In the last two weeks, Adams has seven receptions for 48 yards and two touchdowns on 17 targets. Among players with at least 20 targets, Adams ranks 31st in expected points added (EPA) per target, according to TruMedia. There have been times when he is open and Carr can’t find him, and there have been other times when Carr locks on to Adams and doesn’t see other open receivers.
The advertised chemistry between them from their time at Fresno State has to be rebuilt from the ground up in a Josh McDaniels offensive system featuring two other Pro Bowl targets, tight end Darren Waller and slot receiver Hunter Renfrow. The Raiders’ frustrating offensive effort against the Titans was a fitting amalgamation of the problems this offense has faced and will continue to face until they figure out how to properly balance their target share.
The Titans played a lot of Cover-2 zone, as well as Cover 7 to bracket Adams and Waller. These are the same coverages teams used to defend the Chiefs when Kansas City had Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce.
Cover 7 allows the defense to bracket two receivers while playing one-on-one everywhere else. Here, the Titans had a bracket on Adams on the weak side (bottom of the screen) and Waller in the No. 2 position on the other side. Everyone else was covered one-on-one.
Some teams might play the underneath bracket defender with outside leverage, so he can funnel the receiver toward the deep safety, and sometimes one of the bracket defenders might fall off the receiver depending on the release. But the Titans had “hard” doubles on Adams and Waller throughout the game, meaning they maintained the brackets no matter what. They also had the underneath bracket defender play with inside leverage, presumably because they were afraid of Adams beating them on slants
On this play, Adams was able to get open breaking away from the corner’s leverage, but Carr found Mack Hollins one-on-one running a deep dig on the other side of the formation.
Carr threw a strike and Hollins caught the pass to convert third-and-16.
Former NFL quarterback Dan Orlovsky did a breakdown of the Raiders’ offense on ESPN’s “NFL Live,” showing several clips of Carr not throwing to Adams when he was open. He even said it looked like Carr was purposely avoiding Adams.
One of the plays Orlovsky pointed out was Carr missing Adams on a fade against Cover 7.
In this Cover-7 look, the corner played with inside leverage, and there was a safety over the top.
Adams got open with a nifty release, but Carr didn’t even look his way. Instead, he looked to Hollins, who had a one-on-one to the other side, but the pressure caused Carr to throw incomplete. Orlovsky said he saw Rodgers make the throw to Adams in this situation “a thousand times.”
The problem is Carr isn’t Rodgers. Only a handful of quarterbacks in the league can throw with the skill Rodgers does.
Can Carr make this throw? Yes. Can he do it consistently? I’m not sure about that.
Carr has attempted this type of a throw a few times this season without success. Though Carr should have certainly attempted the throw here, I understand why he would want to look to Hollins in this situation. Against this same coverage in the fourth quarter, Carr threw a touchdown to Hollins by attacking that matchup.
Adams has never played with an assortment of receivers like the one the Raiders have. The advantage of this offense is that you don’t have to force the ball to Adams when he is doubled. In fact, there were times when Carr locking onto Adams led to inefficiency.
Here, the Titans had a bracket called on Adams. The Raiders had a rub concept designed to get Waller free.
Adams beat the bracket inside, and Carr threw him the ball short. But the Titans had multiple sets of eyes on Adams, and he was tackled for a 3-yard gain. Meanwhile, Waller was wide open running to the end zone because of the rub.
Carr threw a good pass, but Adams wasn’t able to get his feet inbounds. Even if Adams caught the pass, Waller had a shot at a deeper play, and Hollins had room to work with inside if he was thrown the ball.
Against bracket coverage, there are some situations in which Carr should at least peek at Adams after the snap to see whether Adams can beat the double-team, but Carr has to learn to quickly move on to his next progression if that’s not the case. This is the cat-and-mouse game he’s going to have to master with the weapons he has and the ways defenses will play them.
Where Carr needs to learn to force-feed Adams is against more generic coverages. I counted four instances in which Carr should have targeted Adams against Cover 2.
Here, the Titans were in a regular Cover-2 zone. The Raiders were in a trips formation with Adams split out wide.
It appeared the Titans busted their coverage and had two defenders in the flat. Adams was wide open inside. It appeared Carr was looking in his direction but didn’t pull the trigger for some reason. Against these types of zones, Carr can use his eyes to manipulate coverage to get Adams the ball.
Many other problems plague this Raiders offense other than knowing when and when not to throw Adams the ball. Carr’s connection with Waller has been off since the beginning of the season. If they were able to connect on the several opportunities they’ve had, the Raiders might be 3-0. The offensive line has played better than expected, but it has also given up pressures and sacks in big moments.
It might be useless to point out with the team in an 0-3 hole, but this offense is close. Carr is learning an offense that is notoriously hard to learn, and there have been wasted downfield opportunities. At some point, this offense is going to get hot. The Raiders have to hope they’re still in the playoff hunt by the time Carr solves his dilemma.
Guya in the six posts above I have copied and pasted an article from Ted Ngyuen at the Athletic. This gy loves the Riaders and is brilliant. The link is below for those who subsribe if you are a raider fan it is the best 1 per month you can spend tons of articles and podcasts.
Also put his twitter below.
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https://theathletic.com/3636836/2022/09/29/raiders-derek-carr-davante-adams/
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Bellichick came to Foxborro and got lucky with the drafting of Tom Brady. He then built a team of high-character players, brought in more talent, tutored coaches and hired more, and added discipline to go with a great game plan. Brady got a chance to start and played o.k. The Patriots then got lucky with the 'tuck rule' and are now, 1 of the best franchises in sports history.
C. Noll came from the LACs' to Pittsburgh and with 1 of the best front offices in NFL history built a dynasty. He got lucky against the Raiders in a playoff game and even though the Steelers didn't make the SB that year they became 1 of the best teams in NFL history.
Jimmy Johnson got lucky with the Hershall Walker trade(Vikings) that got Dallas a lot of high draft picks but he had enough picks and vets to trade some of those draft picks for more picks or veterans.
D. Reeves came over from the Cowboys to coach the Broncos. He didn't go for many star players. He got lucky getting QB J. Elway's rights from the Colts. He built disciplined teams with smart, tough players and had them focused. He built tough defenses that were monsters at safety(D. Smith, M. Hardin and S. Atwater). The Broncos lost some SBs' until they won 1.
B. Walsh led the 49ers to 4 SB wins. He changed the culture and created 1 of the best Os' in NFL history. He took chances on small college stars and drafted some of the best defensive stars in college.
In '63 A. Davis came from the LACs' to Oakland and built 1 of the best teams in pro sports history. He had a lot of talented front office people with him making up 1 of the best front offices in pro sports. He was a leader and had big plans the AFL owners made him commissioner. He helped bring in the modern passing game and he helped create a defensive move for DBs' called the 'Bump and Run' that was made to slow down WRs'. He was 1 of the best football men in NFL history.
Where did the regimes get some of their tutoring and ideas?
John Gruden- Al
Pats' guys- B. Bellichick/ Broncos
Reggie- R. Wolfe, 49ers
Del Rio- T. Coughlin
D. Allen- S. Peyton, Broncos
R. Bissicia- J. Jones/ Cowobys' coaches
M. Mayock- NFL Network/ Steelers
Now, you could take ideas from any 1 of these teams/ GMs'/ coaches with you to a new team as HC or GM and help their front offices.
Then maybe there are old/ new ideas from winning teams that could help us. Maybe some of the new OCs'/HCs' ideas might get the O rolling. Maybe the some older ideas 90s' 49ers or Cowboys, 70s-Steelers' or today's Cardinals or Ravens' might get this team going.
There are a lot of winning teams/systems and the Raiders could've taken time to look at them. You/ media claim Al's system was done. Maybe by now('22) it might be but '03? No, I think it was the NFL hating on him. I think his O was modern enough. Think Al hired OCs' and not let them bring their own ideas?
Al might sign some star FA or some veteran released by other teams to see if he can be coached up. He might ask his coaches to play a back up more to see if they can be coached up or a practice squad guy to learn to rush passer or play DT. He would try to find somebody to get team rolling. He would use other staff/ teams' ideas but he would use his own different ways too.
So far I am not impressed with coaching. That's a huge disappointment after propping them up during the offseason. It's too early to completely throw them under the bus but a course correction is in order. They have to be better than they've been. Three close games which the Raiders should have won at least 1-2.
If the Raiders had a decent offensive line that would solve a lot of problems. Carr has never been that good under duress, although, he has his moments. If the O-line cannot perform, then much of the blame falls to Zeigler for not doing more to get players in. The Raiders had plenty of cap space to make that happen. Maybe they got caught with their pants down and assumed too much regarding Leatherwood, Parker and others who are just downright bad.
Clearly, the Raiders have the talent to be a winning team. Unfortunately, too much pressure now exists for one game this weekend. Anything can happen in a game, so this thing can go sideways quickly.
Hard to believe the Raiders are in a must-win situation by Game 4. But here we are.
Vegas, baby!
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